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Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:17 pm
Posted by BurnsideStyle
Member since May 2014
1760 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:17 pm
Bama fans are happy. OM fans are happy. Fine and good.

I know some of us can’t do it but leave the emotion out of it. What does this do for both programs?

Do you think Golding as DC hire for OM will make a negligible, noticeable, or substantial difference for OM in terms of recruiting, organizational learning, and mainly more wins?

For Bama, who are y’all excited about getting that in your opinion will get you back from great to elite? Also, I have to say this, if you guys get in the playoffs this year, there would have been a damn good chance y’all would have won another Natty, so I’m not sure you have dipped to begin with.
Posted by SpurandBlue
Member since Jan 2023
410 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:18 pm to
No, defense starts with the HC being committed to it. Not being full retard going for 4th downs on their own side of the field in the first qtr.
Posted by BurnsideStyle
Member since May 2014
1760 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:21 pm to
Thank you for your honest response
Posted by HonorThyWarEagle
#Auburn2FinalFour
Member since Sep 2022
2959 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Do you think Golding as DC hire for OM will make a negligible, noticeable, or substantial difference for OM in terms of recruiting, organizational learning, and mainly more wins?


One of the Golding talking points are that he's a pretty good recruiter according to Bama fans so I think OM should be fine recruiting wise
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24262 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:29 pm to
Recruiting he’s great at. As a DC I was never impressed. He returned an entire defense and couldn’t stop an Auburn QB who can’t pass, gave up last minute drives against LSU and Tennessee in games where Bama took the lead late with little time left on the clock. Bamas offense averaged 40/42 points a game and lost two games. When did you ever think a Bama team that scored 49 points would lose a game?
Posted by BurnsideStyle
Member since May 2014
1760 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

When did you ever think a Bama team that scored 49 points would lose a game?


Never
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40815 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:36 pm to
Golding is a great recruiter and can only help bring in better defensive talent to ole miss.

Golding is a horrific play caller on defense. His approach either works great or he gets absolutely burned. Some of his inventive play calls make zero sense. I can't even count all the 3/4th down series where he calls for the interior d lineman to stunt, no matter what the yardage to gain. It drives you mad. Then add on he had absolute stud pass rushers in Anderson/Turner but would drop 1 or both into coverage 40% of the time.

He calls a lot of exotic blitz packages that wait for the offense to hold onto the ball for 10 seconds before the defender makes his way to the QB.

A lot of people have mentioned. He is a whiz on the whiteboard with inventive schemes. Just terrible actually translating it to the field. I think that is why Nick had such a hard time judging what to do with Pete
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 8:42 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:37 pm to
Golding to Ole Miss is a good move for Ole Miss, Pete and Bama. I expect Ole Miss' and Bama's defenses to improve and Golding really needed to hit his own reset button.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14406 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:45 pm to
For me, Golding could get opposing offenses in third and long and then just have brain farts on third and 4th downs. Sometimes the defense just couldn't get off the field when they could have and should have. I caught myself talking to the TV more in the last 2 years than I had in awhile.
Posted by WinnaSez
Jackson, MS
Member since Mar 2019
976 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

I can't even count all the 3/4th down series where he calls for the interior d lineman to stunt, no matter what the yardage to gain. It drives you mad.


3rd and Golding
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5374 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:50 pm to
I have no idea what it does for both programs. Wait and see approach for Ole Miss defense.

Also depends on who Bama hires. Golding was made a scapegoat at Bama. But we also know Bill O’Brien is terrible.

Posted by BurnsideStyle
Member since May 2014
1760 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

He is a whiz on the whiteboard with inventive schemes. Just terrible actually translating it to the field. I think that is why Nick had such a hard time judging what to do with Pete


Hmmm. Who knows how these coaching staffs work out when we all first hire. Sometimes it hits and there’s chemistry and sometimes it doesn’t.

Being both innovators and both having shortcomings applying it to the field is interesting. There may be a synergy there but who knows. Chemistry is in the ether and is an intersection of art and process. You know you have it with people or not almost immediately whether it’s scheming plays, on field players executing, playing music in a band, running a company, etc…
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40815 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:54 pm to
quote:

depends on who Bama hires. Golding was made a scapegoat at Bama. But we also know Bill O’Brien is terrible.


With both gone should be interesting
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1847 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 2:01 am to
He will bring a lot of top notch talent and make the overall roster better because he is a great recruiter, but he will infuriate the fans with a lot of his play calls especially in times when the game is on the line.
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4296 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 3:57 am to
OM upgraded. Bama TBD
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35712 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 4:57 am to
the only thing "wrong" with Pete Golding is that he is hated by the biggest collection of imbeciles in the Western Hemisphere, Alabama fans.

They're all legends in their own minds as they coach peewee football and think they're on the verge of being hired by Bill Belichick.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35712 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 5:04 am to
quote:

he calls for the interior d lineman to stunt, no matter what the yardage to gain.






this is repeated ad hominem as a scripted talking point for idiot Alabama fans, and none of you have any idea what you're talking about

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35712 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 5:07 am to
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Then add on he had absolute stud pass rushers in Anderson/Turner but would drop 1 or both into coverage 40% of the time.






uh, probably because they're linebackers maybe?


Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35712 posts
Posted on 1/14/23 at 5:15 am to
quote:

I can't even count all the 3/4th down series where he calls for the interior d lineman to stunt,


quote:

Then add on he had absolute stud pass rushers in Anderson/Turner but would drop 1 or both into coverage 40% of the time.






uh, if you're blitzing your LB (which you don't want to do 60% of the time ), then you want your DL to stem a gap to create a double team and open up a lane for the blitz


you, the typical Gump, literally frick up the DL stem "reasoning", and the LB "rushing the passer" "reasoning" and you do it in a way that contradicts both happening in tandem to each other


:lol:
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