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SidewalkTiger
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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It takes half a brain to put that in your original post. 


I didnt realize Georgia fans need everything spelled out for them. My mistake.

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Expect people to call you out when you are factually wrong. That's life.


Except my statement wasnt factually wrong, I never said it was their first three seasons of being a head coach, just their first three seasons.



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skrayper
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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So you dont think Richt should have been fired?

The only good senior on Smarts first team was Maurice Smith (brought over from Alabama).
What other seniors were there? Greyson Lambert who lost his starting job at Virginia and couldnt beat out a true freshman at UGA in 2016 that was recruited by Richt.

Smart transformed an offensive line from 285 pounds per player to over 310 pounds in his second season.


I never said Richt was the best man for the job at UGA, but his run in 2012 is pretty much equal to Kirby's run in 2017.

That said, Smart inherited a team that had gone 19-6 in their last two seasons under Richt. He lost nearly that many games in his inaugural season.

And if we're being fair, Smart inherited an East with just one consistent opponent - Florida, and one that was having a lot of trouble finding an offensive identity.

Richt's last 4 seasons at UGA:
12-2
8-5
10-3
9-3

Smart's 4 seasons at UGA:
8-5
13-2
11-3
12-2

They both have almost the exact same number of losses. UGA finished 3-1 in the post season at the end of both 4 year stretches.

I'm saying that, compared to Ole Miss and a sanction-gutted Michigan State, the comparison is that Orgeron and Saban were given the keys to a Pinto and a VW Bus, and you're here saying that Kirby getting to race them in a 2 year old Mustang is "equal".
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SidewalkTiger
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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I'm saying that, compared to Ole Miss and a sanction-gutted Michigan State, the comparison is that Orgeron were given the keys to a Pinto and a VW Bus, and you're here saying that Kirby getting to race them in a 2 year old Mustang is "equal".


They have to make excuses for the 40 year hiatus


DawgNation4
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
Troy. Where were you that night y'all lost to Troy? How did it feel?


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Troy. Where were you that night y'all lost to Troy? How did it feel?


I guess about the same as it felt when you lost to Vandy and Georgia Tech.


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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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never said Richt was the best man for the job at UGA, but his run in 2012 is pretty much equal to Kirby's run in 2017.



Not when you get into quality wins.
2015, Richt went 10-3 with losses to the only ranked teams that he played.
2019, Smart went 12-2 with 4 wins over ranked opponents.

It is a little disingenuous to look at number of losses when 1 coach is in conference championships/playoffs while the other coach is playing unranked teams in bowl games.

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saying that, compared to Ole Miss and a sanction-gutted Michigan State, the comparison is that Orgeron were given the keys to a Pinto and a VW Bus, and you're here saying that Kirby getting to race them in a 2 year old Mustang is "equal".


I agree. It isnt equal. The "third year" was his statement. I just brought the actual data from the third year to the thread.


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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
And we only had 2 where we gave up over 20. Bama had 5, LSU had 9


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SidewalkTiger
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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The "third year" was his statement. I just brought the actual data from the third year to the thread.


Actually you just made an incorrect assumption about the meaning of the post but its whatever.


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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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never said Richt was the best man for the job at UGA, but his run in 2012 is pretty much equal to Kirby's run in 2017.


Pretty much still isn’t equal. The defense was clearly better in 2017.

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They both have almost the exact same number of losses. UGA finished 3-1 in the post season at the end of both 4 year stretches.


Forget the mulligan of 2016. That year was gonna be trash no matter who the coach was.

Kirby just had a better 3 year run than richt ever did.


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Your defense was soft. LSU had to take the foot off the gas vs you guys


Nah. Held y’all to 17 in the first half despite a trash offense. That included a drive aided by burrow catching his own pass and running 20 yards.


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meansonny
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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Both Saban and Orgeron won a championship in their third seasons.

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Actually you just made an incorrect assumption about the meaning of the post but its whatever.


This thread wasnt about Saban or O.
Yet you thought it would be cute to insert them into the conversation.
No biggie

But you literally said third season referencing both head coaches. Facts dont care about your feelings.
Coach O got fired in his third season.


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That included a drive aided by burrow catching his own pass and running 20 yards.


Must've been a soft arse defense.


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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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This thread wasnt about Saban or O. 
Yet you thought it would be cute to insert them into the conversation. 
No biggie 


Because I was replying to this statement:

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For some reason everyone expects a top recruiting class to translate in to a championship immediately, but that just isn't reality. 


I was stating that O and Saban each came in, got their recruits, and immediately won a title despite the poster saying that wasnt reality.

Then you jumped in and started talking about Michigan State and Ole Miss despite my statement having nothing to do with "their first three years as a head coach".

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But you literally said third season referencing both head coaches. 


Again, in reference to they were able to get their guys and win at a school on par with Georgia in recruiting.


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skrayper
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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Forget the mulligan of 2016. That year was gonna be trash no matter who the coach was.

Kirby just had a better 3 year run than richt ever did.


Ehhh...

I'd posit that 2002-2004, where UGA lost 6 games, is right up there with Kirby's 3 years with 7 losses.


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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
those three 5*s that left were freshmen that transferred out? Just to give you a heads up. Starters are considered as being on the two deep.


DawgNation4
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
Kirby never lost to the Troy Trojans


SidewalkTiger
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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Kirby never lost to the Troy Trojans


Yet he cant beat O, who did lose to Troy.


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CatsGoneWild
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
Orgeron never lost to the Georgia bulldogs
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meansonny
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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those three 5*s that left were freshmen that transferred out?


No.
We lose Isaiah Wilson (junior starter RT to the draft)
Lose Deandre Swift (junior starter rb to the draft)
Lose Cade Mays (sophomore rotational starter to Tenn).

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Just to give you a heads up. Starters are considered as being on the two deep.


I'm not sure what this means. There are starters. And there are guys who come off the bench. We played a ton of 5 stars on the 2 deep. But those freshmen and sophomores will now be sophomores and juniors. They will be starters this upcoming season where they came off the bench last season.


skrayper
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re: Georgia had 2 games where they scored over 30 vs power 5 teams
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Just to give you a heads up. Starters are considered as being on the two deep.

I'm not sure what this means. There are starters. And there are guys who come off the bench.


Because college football rotates players so much that your "backup" is in the game for nearly as many snaps as the starter, with some positions being the obvious exception.

DL gets the most rotation. WR1, ILB, and CB1 getting among the least along with, obviously, QB. Not uncommon for a deep team to rotate RB, various OL spots, OLB, and their safeties (sometimes, not as common though). Especially if you run more complex schemes on offense or defense.


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