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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
It’s obvious you really have no clue about Chizik at Auburn, and therefore your Chizik vs Orgeron fails miserably. Get educated and try again son.


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lsu711
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
Clemson to the SEC would be the quickest fall from grace the game has ever seen.


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ForeverEllisHugh
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8-4 is the absolute floor with that schedule


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1BIGTigerFan
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
I think you know the answer to your question. Even though Clemson doesn't have a history of winning, you're at the top now and have expectations as such. Meaning, your fans demand success.

When it's time for a change, teams at the top will recognize it and demand the coach get back to winning or make a change. CGC wasn't thought of very highly and it didn't seem he was ever going to be able to make it back to the top without a Cam Newton. Time will tell with CEO, but I suspect Coach O's recruiting is at a higher level than Coach Chizik's was.





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1BIGTigerFan
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That’s a program that is likely down for the count after LSU delivered a fatal blow

Like Miami after the Peach Bowl.


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VagueMessage
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
2010 Auburn was an 8–5 team made 14–0 by a star player. 2019 LSU was a 10–3 team made 15–0 by a star player. That's just about where the comparisons end. Ed Orgeron and Gene Chizik are not remotely in the same caliber of coaches. And when O failed, he didn't fold in defeat. He proved he was better than ever at USC, and again at LSU.


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1BIGTigerFan
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It wasn’t just that we lost, it was the way we lost. Horrible player conduct issues including frightening crimes. Being down 49-0 to multiple opponents before the fourth quarter. Players goofing off and dancing on the sidelines when down by 3-4 touchdowns in the first half. Little to no positivity for the future of the program.

This guy gets it.


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SammyTiger
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
Chizik actually got worse 2 years out from the NC, and he wasn’t that great before it

8-5
14-0
8-5
3-9

If he went 3-9 and then 8-5 I thinjnhe Probably would have gotten another year but it was pretty clear he wasn’t a good coach.

O has gon
6-2, 9-4, 10-3 and 15-0
If he has a 9/8 win season next year he’ll definitely survive.

There are very few coaches who can mix in a 3-9 season and not be fired/feeling the heat


VagueMessage
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If he went 3-9 and then 8-5 I thinjnhe Probably would have gotten another year but it was pretty clear he wasn’t a good coach.


It was clear he wasn't a good coach at Iowa State. That was Auburn's Chad Morris hire, through and through. Luckily, Cam Newton was available for hire and they were able to make it worth their while.


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blzr
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Auburn ran a gimmick offense that required a special skill set.

LSU does not run a gimmick offense.



It’s amazing how dumb you are


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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
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With Aggies expected to win West,




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lastfan
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
We need a forum to house frequently posted topics. Just merge every similarly themed post into its one thread. Let each topic go for a year and then obliterate it.

This would eliminate the same troll topics getting posted over and over on our beloved SEC Rant board... and it should keep immature folks like the OP in check.


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Roll Tide Ravens
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
Orgeron seems to still have a better staff around him than Chizik did, and is a better recruiter. It’s not practical to expect him to repeat what LSU did last year, but I doubt he’ll have a fall like Chizik did and be 3-9 two seasons after a national title.
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CU_Tigers4life
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
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I think you know the answer to your question. Even though Clemson doesn't have a history of winning, you're at the top now and have expectations as such. Meaning, your fans demand success.

When it's time for a change, teams at the top will recognize it and demand the coach get back to winning or make a change. CGC wasn't thought of very highly and it didn't seem he was ever going to be able to make it back to the top without a Cam Newton. Time will tell with CEO, but I suspect Coach O's recruiting is at a higher level than Coach Chizik's was.


I think you make a great point. A fan under the age say 20-25 doesn't remember when Clemson was was down. I'm old enough remember how bad Clemson was before the 1977 season. The 80's were good to us and we became mediocre in the 90's.

Dabo could have a total collapse and has so much cred that it would take a lot more than a couple of bad seasons. He pretty much has a lifetime job if he wants it.


AUCE05
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
Chiz was a terrible program manager. He was fired because of systematic issues and the kiddnapping incident. I do think O got lucky with Joe B and won't repeat last season again, however he is a much better manager of a program than Chiz.


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TexasTiger08
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Both Coaches had the very good fortune of landing incredibly good QB's in their lap


What the frick does this mean? You make it seem like Burrow showed up to practice, knocked on the coach’s door, and asked to tryout.

By this logic, Dabo is very lucky that Deshaun and Lawrence fell into his lap.


Bosethus68
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
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With Aggies expected to win West


Link? Because you are trying to blow smoke up the wrong asses


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BigSlick
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With Aggies expected to win West


Always the best team in the country...until October.


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jfran23
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
You just started watching football??


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NattyTiger19
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re: Gene Chizik and Ed Orgeron Comparisons
You are obviously besides being an incredibly dumb loon, a severely mentally handicapped mental midget at the same time.

LSU is loaded up to the gills, you dumb ignoramus. As LSU is not rebuilding. LSU is reloading.


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