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GA fans...explain 3rd and Grantham
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:35 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:35 am
Hoping to set aside the gayturd hate for a second to explain the meaning and history of this?
I think I am starting to see it...amazing defensive series on 1st and 2nd then seems to go into prevent mode on 3rd out the blue with 50 minutes left in the game. Not sure that is what you guys are referring to?
Also, when did you guys notice it? How long in Todds career or has it always been a thing.
Concerned, for obvious reasons.
I think I am starting to see it...amazing defensive series on 1st and 2nd then seems to go into prevent mode on 3rd out the blue with 50 minutes left in the game. Not sure that is what you guys are referring to?
Also, when did you guys notice it? How long in Todds career or has it always been a thing.
Concerned, for obvious reasons.
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Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:37 am to DivePlay
They stolt it from 3rd and Chavis.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:38 am to DivePlay
I didn't recall it at State so much. I tended to see more like live by the sword, die by the sword with the blitzing.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:44 am to DivePlay
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Also, when did you guys notice it? How long in Todds career or has it always been a thing. Concerned, for obvious reasons.
We started noticing it when it started costing us games that we could have maybe won with a defensive stand or two. Probably started rearing it's ugly head in year #2...2011.
The most obvious example was the 2012 SECCG vs. Alabama. Gave up like 350 yards rushing.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 9:46 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:45 am to DivePlay
UGA had a knack for giving up big plays on 3rd down during Granthams tenure there though they did make some big plays themselves sometimes. What bothered me the most about them during that time is how often the defensive backfield players would be holding their arms up at each other before the snap. It was obvious that quite often they didn't have any idea what they were supposed to do.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:48 am to DivePlay
He would fair pretty well on the first two downs and then have some BS scheme that usually was a prevent that allowed the O to move the sticks. It happened 60-70% of the time and it got old fast. I saw it Saturday and said to myself, yep 3rd and Grantham. Glad you have him!
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:51 am to FredBear
Thanks dawgs...that is what I was afraid of. Oof...year is getting even longer.
Alright, back to the hate...frick UGA.
Alright, back to the hate...frick UGA.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:51 am to immobileman
You guys may be right, but I see our problem as players who are just not making plays or getting too many PI's called against them, and they are not bad calls either. So not really able to blame it on the defensive play calling if the guy is in position and just doesn't make the play.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 9:53 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:54 am to DivePlay
He also didn't teach fundamental tackling. We whiffed using arm tacking that obviously doesn't work. I hope he's locked into a long contract. 
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:55 am to bigDgator
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You guys may be right, but I see our problem as players who are just not making plays or getting too many PI's called against them, and they are not bad calls either. So not really able to blame it on the defensive play calling if the guy is in position and just doesn't make the play.
And that also goes back to the previous poster who stated that UGA players would be out of position, holding up their arms at the sideline, with no clue what they were supposed to be doing on 3rd down. Of course, Grantham said that was because his scheme was 'too complex' for college players to grasp, and that it worked well in the NFL.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:58 am to bigDgator
A lot of 3rd and Grantham in the first half. One of UKs TD drives kept going because UF D did not get stops on 3rd and long.
Just checked the play by play on ESPN.
First TD drive. 3 & 21 and 3 & 8 converted.
The second half was completely different.
Just checked the play by play on ESPN.
First TD drive. 3 & 21 and 3 & 8 converted.
The second half was completely different.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:58 am to bigDgator
He was actually a pretty good DC at UGA. Not as good as Pruitt, but still pretty good.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:00 am to bigDgator
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They stolt it from 3rd and Chavis.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:00 am to DivePlay
One aspect of 3rd and grantham should not be a concern for you.
Christian Robinson was our 3rd down Mike linebacker. Imagine that. The player responsible for calling the play, setting up the defense, and making adjustments to personnel was busy running onto the field during this time. Now imagine an offense going no huddle.
That was one of UGAs biggest frustrations that we couldn't find a better way to defend third down than to swap Mike linebackers (because our DBs often had no clue what their responsibility was)
Christian Robinson was our 3rd down Mike linebacker. Imagine that. The player responsible for calling the play, setting up the defense, and making adjustments to personnel was busy running onto the field during this time. Now imagine an offense going no huddle.
That was one of UGAs biggest frustrations that we couldn't find a better way to defend third down than to swap Mike linebackers (because our DBs often had no clue what their responsibility was)
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 10:01 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:00 am to BloodSweat&Beers
The multiple 3rd and long conversions were killing me in the UK game. I guess having Zuniga out was part of that, but could not find much explanation for it. Would like to see a rundown on why we got burned so much.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:01 am to BloodSweat&Beers
There's not really any real explanation that I can find, it's perplexing. He'll be great on 1 and 2 but for whatever reason has a tendency to give up backbreaking plays on 3rd down.
Last year UGA scored 4 touchdowns against UF. All 4 of them were on 3rd down.
Last year UGA scored 4 touchdowns against UF. All 4 of them were on 3rd down.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:13 am to WG_Dawg
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Last year UGA scored 4 touchdowns against UF. All 4 of them were on 3rd down.
Well Christ that is pretty telling. Guess now I am going to be obsessed with every 3rd down play on defense for the rest of the season. Not looking good.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:54 am to armtackledawg
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He was actually a pretty good DC at UGA. Not as good as Pruitt, but still pretty good.
Grantham's last year at UGA his defense gave up 30 plus points to 8 of 11 regular season opponents. I remember him being ran out of town. I guess I have a bad memory.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:55 am to DivePlay
It's definitely frustrating. I believe overall though that he's won us more games than lost when we're healthy.
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