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Final ESPN Strength of Record Rankings
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:51 am
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:51 am
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Strength of Record: Reflects chance that an average Top 25 team would have team's record or better, given the schedule. On a 0 to 100 scale, where 100 is best.
Again, SOR is basically a ranking of team's resumes.
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Ohio State
5. Georgia
6. Oklahoma
7. Michigan
8. LSU
9. UCF
10. Washington
11. Kentucky
13. Florida
14. Texas A&M
16. Missouri
22. Mississippi State
26. South Carolina
30. Auburn
46. Vanderbilt
48. Tennessee
64. Ole Miss
106. Arkansas
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Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
I love all of these new bullshite metrics that came with the playoff. This and Game Control.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 10:58 am to SummerOfGeorge
wow. Clemson and Notre Dame
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:02 am to jlovel7
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This and Game Control.
Hey at least they have data in the background. The absolute worst is "eye test". If I hear Kirk Herbstreit utter those words one more time it will be one time too many.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
Is this through the regular season or do the teams that played 13 games get to count that one too?
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:03 am to SummerOfGeorge
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9. UCF
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:03 am to BHMKyle
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Hey at least they have data in the background. The absolute worst is "eye test". If I hear Kirk Herbstreit utter those words one more time it will be one time too many.
Totally agree, because then you can have a discussion about the data and whether it's reasonable or not.
There is no discussion with "eye test". It just is what you think it is. That's it.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 11:04 am
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:04 am to bigDgator
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Is this through the regular season or do the teams that played 13 games get to count that one too?
I think it includes the championship week.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:06 am to SummerOfGeorge
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3. Notre Dame
What a laugh
Any school that played a 13th game (even if they did not win) should be ahead.
Did nobody take basic math in figuring this out?
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:08 am to SummerOfGeorge
Perfect example why UK should be ranked ahead of Florida
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:08 am to Cheese Grits
quote:oh you
Any school that played a 13th game (even if they did not win) should be ahead.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:08 am to Cheese Grits
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What a laugh
Any school that played a 13th game (even if they did not win) should be ahead.
Did nobody take basic math in figuring this out?
Except most teams played at least 1 game (many 2 or 3) that were 100% wins and Notre Dame only played 1 of those (Ball St).
So basically instead of The Citadel game Notre Dame played 0 game. It works out the same.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:11 am to SummerOfGeorge
How is this calculated? How do they determine the "chance" that an average Top 25 team would have a team's record?
I see someone mentioned that there is data to backup these metrics, but what exactly goes into it other than SOS?
I see someone mentioned that there is data to backup these metrics, but what exactly goes into it other than SOS?
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:12 am to SummerOfGeorge
Alabama and LSU played virtually the same schedule. How is Alabama 1 and LSU 8?
LSU played Florida. Bama played vandy. Wtf? I’m confused.
LSU played Florida. Bama played vandy. Wtf? I’m confused.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:12 am to UpToPar
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How is this calculated? How do they determine the "chance" that an average Top 25 team would have a team's record?
I see someone mentioned that there is data to backup these metrics, but what exactly goes into it other than SOS?
They basically "create" an "average" Top 25 team (based on the average of the current Top 25) and run them through simulations of every team's schedule using the same stuff they use for calculating % to win for each team now.
Obviously it isn't perfect, but it's an interesting look when comparing a 12-0 team with what we all think is a meh schedule to a 10-2 team that we all think has a super hard schedule.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:13 am to bamabonners
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Alabama and LSU played virtually the same schedule. How is Alabama 1 and LSU 8?
LSU's schedule was harder. But this isn't Strength of Schedule, this is Strength of Record........Resume Ranking.
Alabama went 13-0
LSU went 9-3
So, it'd be much harder to go 13-0 vs Alabama's schedule than 9-3 vs LSU's schedule.
This post was edited on 12/4/18 at 11:14 am
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:14 am to SummerOfGeorge
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SummerOfGeorge
Thank you! Upvote
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:15 am to SummerOfGeorge
I see your point, and a bunch of middlin' teams may average out to the same as playing half really good teams and half shitty teams, but I don't see that they have the same propensity to have a loss or losses in that case. And I am talking more about Central Fla than ND.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:16 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Except most teams played at least 1 game (many 2 or 3) that were 100% wins and Notre Dame only played 1 of those (Ball St).
So basically instead of The Citadel game Notre Dame played 0 game. It works out the same.
Not to change the subject...
But Notre Dame played crappy games.
Beating Vandy by 5? Barely bowl eligible Vandy.
Beating Pitt by 5. 6 loss Pitt.
Beating 7 loss USC by 7.
People talk about bad games against good teams. But bad games are bad games. Notre Dame has played like crap all season.
The data misses a lot of that.
Posted on 12/4/18 at 11:18 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Except most teams played at least 1 game (many 2 or 3) that were 100% wins and Notre Dame only played 1 of those (Ball St).
So basically instead of The Citadel game Notre Dame played 0 game. It works out the same.
But nothing is 100%. No matter what, the Citadel has a better chance of upsetting you than a bye week. Unless you're Tennessee, obviously, then the Citadel is 100% and the bye week has the same odds.
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