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Expansion spin-off- ACC ESPN guy on radio this morning
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:54 am
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:54 am
He said everybody is assuming the Big Ten wants Oregon and Washington, but they are actually wanting to be heavy in the southeast coast.
He said the Big Ten has reached out to North Carolina, Virginia, Florida state, and Clemson
Now word is coming out that the big 12 could add up to six pac 12 schools next month
If you’re in the SEC and you hear the smoke, do you get ahead of it and offer North Carolina and North Carolina State? I don’t think South Carolina and Florida will allow Florida state and Clemson
He said the Big Ten has reached out to North Carolina, Virginia, Florida state, and Clemson
Now word is coming out that the big 12 could add up to six pac 12 schools next month
If you’re in the SEC and you hear the smoke, do you get ahead of it and offer North Carolina and North Carolina State? I don’t think South Carolina and Florida will allow Florida state and Clemson
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 11:56 am
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:56 am to dallastiger55
The smart move would be to go after the North Carolina schools. The TV markets they’d bring in would make far more impact than what would be seen from FSU & Clemson.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 11:59 am to dallastiger55
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you’re in the SEC and you hear the smoke, do you get ahead of it and offer North Carolina and North Carolina State?
These schools just don’t do it for me. Plus UNC will think they are the cat meow. Sometimes less is more. Have fun in the Big 10.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:04 pm to dallastiger55
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but they are actually wanting to be in the east and south coast.
It’s actually pretty clear that their leadership wants control of NCAA Football, and the only thing left in their way is the SEC and contracts.
Eyes from the south on a mid season Purdue-Michigan game.
All of those teams are fine, but they won’t leave the contract unless they get the SEC to also offer four teams. Key dominos for a countrywide league will fall into Big12 hands and not likely escape if they offer other Pac teams right now, and they can’t take them all until a contract ends.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:04 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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These schools just don’t do it for me. Plus UNC will think they are the cat meow. Sometimes less is more. Have fun in the Big 10.
I’m quite certain the SEC is going to base any decisions on expansion based on potential revenue from TV market share and not the opinion of some random a-hole on a message board.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:06 pm to Darth_Vader
It’s not so much about TV markets. Everyone, everywhere is in the same virtual TV market now. If you’re a sports fan (and for college, we all know football is the driving force), your cable/streaming TV provider is generally going to have all the major sports networks, including the conference networks. It’s about brand recognition, creating compelling matchups that people will watch (even fans of other teams), and fan base size/support.
Texas vs NC State is not compelling. Texas vs Florida State is. Alabama vs Virginia is not going to get great ratings. Alabama vs Clemson will.
The most valuable brands outside the SEC and Big Ten are ND, Oregon, Florida State and Clemson. I think Washington may even be a a more valuable addition than UNC, VA or VT.
Texas vs NC State is not compelling. Texas vs Florida State is. Alabama vs Virginia is not going to get great ratings. Alabama vs Clemson will.
The most valuable brands outside the SEC and Big Ten are ND, Oregon, Florida State and Clemson. I think Washington may even be a a more valuable addition than UNC, VA or VT.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:06 pm to Darth_Vader
I forgot. Let me text Slive to see how I should respond.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:08 pm to Ancient Astronaut
UNC and UVA makes sense from a TV standpoint ... or even NC St and Va Tech from both a TV standpoint and cultural standpoint, those two line-up much better than UNC and UVA culturally.
I just do not believe any further expansion, at this time, would-be advantageous for the SEC although I know for a fact UNC is being encouraged-to consider it by Mack.
UVA is one of the most horribly far left liberal progressive socialist marxist institutions in the country. Whereas UNC is starting-to-try to turn it around and back away from the woke BS.
I just don't believe UNC and UVA would be willing-to give-up their dominant voting positions within the ACC and the ACC would fight, to the death, not to lose any of their tobacco road members.
I just do not believe any further expansion, at this time, would-be advantageous for the SEC although I know for a fact UNC is being encouraged-to consider it by Mack.
UVA is one of the most horribly far left liberal progressive socialist marxist institutions in the country. Whereas UNC is starting-to-try to turn it around and back away from the woke BS.
I just don't believe UNC and UVA would be willing-to give-up their dominant voting positions within the ACC and the ACC would fight, to the death, not to lose any of their tobacco road members.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:11 pm to dallastiger55
This is pure gold ...
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:12 pm to scrooster
No schools outside ND, Fla St, Clemson, and Oregon will likely improve the media rights deal for the SEC, on per school basis. Other schools, including the Virginia and North Carolina schools, may even dilute the TV package value for the SEC.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:17 pm to Ancient Astronaut
Fla and USCe aren't blocking FSU and Clemson
Aggies thought they could keep Texas out
Kansas and OSU could be options as well
Aggies thought they could keep Texas out
Kansas and OSU could be options as well
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:23 pm to 195bc
Neither criminoles or the sheep humping sister bangers would bring one ounce of credibility or TV revenue to the SEC. Not one ounce.
They wouldn't add-to the recruiting footprint.
What they would add-to the conference is their administration's prima donna little bitches mentality, their incessantly hypocritical posturing and their poisonous back-stabbbing along-with some of the shittiest entitled fans in the country.
They wouldn't add-to the recruiting footprint.
What they would add-to the conference is their administration's prima donna little bitches mentality, their incessantly hypocritical posturing and their poisonous back-stabbbing along-with some of the shittiest entitled fans in the country.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:23 pm to Hback
Francis is a complete idiot
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:00 pm to dallastiger55
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If you’re in the SEC and you hear the smoke, do you get ahead of it and offer North Carolina and North Carolina State?
I don't think you can, because it would risk a tortious interference with contract claim from the ACC and its remaining members. They'll have to approach us first.
I'm pretty sure that schools like Florida State, Clemson, NC State, UNC, etc. have reached out, if for no other reason than due diligence. I have no doubt that some type of discussion has happened through 3rd parties, at least. But I don't think the B1G and the SEC have initiated those conversations for legal reasons.
I think we'll learn the fate of the PAC12 by April. If that media deal turns out to be underwhelming--which might not be decided exclusively on the bottom dollar--then I think it's entirely possible that those Four Corners schools break away.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:02 pm to nicholastiger
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Kansas and OSU could be options as well
Oklahoma State? Maybe.
Kansas? No. This is the Southeastern Conference. Nothing says "southeast" like Kansas.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:24 pm to dallastiger55
Why even have conferences at this point? Just have a 64 team P5 "conference" and move on already. This is lame. Every new addition is worse than the last at this point.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:28 pm to dallastiger55
quote:you hold at 16. Oklahoma & Texas are enough.
If you’re in the SEC
let the big2t0en bloat itself into further mediocrity across all sports. the time zone difference kills West coast tv viewership for a conference which lives to play Noon football EST after their weather up there turns to shite in October.
Football - SEC solidly better
Hoops - big2t0en barely better
Baseball - SEC no question and it's not close
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:29 pm to dallastiger55
quote:OU and Texas made their move to coincide with the expiration of the Big XII grant of rights in 2025, hoping they might be able to move earlier than that. They only managed to buy their way out one year early.
He said everybody is assuming the Big Ten wants Oregon and Washington, but they are actually wanting to be heavy in the southeast coast.
He said the Big Ten has reached out to North Carolina, Virginia, Florida state, and Clemson
Now word is coming out that the big 12 could add up to six pac 12 schools next month
If you’re in the SEC and you hear the smoke, do you get ahead of it and offer North Carolina and North Carolina State? I don’t think South Carolina and Florida will allow Florida state and Clemson
Unless a super majority of ACC members decide to leave all at once, and terminate the league first, those ACC teams aren't going anywhere anytime soon. 2036 is still a long ways away.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:41 pm to Darth_Vader
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I’m quite certain the SEC is going to base any decisions on expansion based on potential revenue from TV market share and not the opinion of some random a-hole on a message board.
In the age of streaming TV markets mean nothing, it's not 2012 anymore.
Biggest brands will get the first call, even if they're already inside the footprint.
Posted on 3/3/23 at 2:24 pm to dallastiger55
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I don’t think South Carolina and Florida will allow Florida state and Clemson
They said that about Texas lol
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