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re: Examining the "1980" insult.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:09 am to bamameister
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:09 am to bamameister
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Not sure what you call a great coach then. Jimbo had one lousy year at FSU and that team was devastated by injury. His teams are filled with NFL players. We took one of them in Dickerson. He can recruit and he can get them ready. He's more the X and O than Dabo ever thought about being.
He had two 10-3 seasons prior to the terrible year and keep in mind his teams clearly had the most talent in their conference.
2015:
22-16 loss to Georgia Tech
23-13 loss to Clemson
38-24 loss to Houston
2016:
63-20 loss to Louisville
37-35 loss to North Carolina
37-34 loss to Clemson
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:12 am to GeauxTigerNation
I'm gonna be sad when UGA finally wins a football title. Love me some 1980 smack talk from that program that recruits top 5 every year.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:20 am to tiger perry
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program that recruits top 5 every year.
This is a pretty recent phenomenon. But thank you
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:50 am to GeauxTigerNation
1980 just has such a nice ring to it. It’s a round number, the beginning of a decade. It just rolls off your tongue. It also makes the math easier to figure out the length of UGA’s title drought. If Georgia’s last title were’79 or ‘81, it wouldn’t be as catchy.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 7:53 am to SidewalkTiger
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He had two 10-3 seasons prior to the terrible year and keep in mind his teams clearly had the most talent in their conference.
Then what about Dabo?
2009 9-5, lost twice to GaTech that year
2010 6-7, SC beat them 29-7 and USF beat them in a bowl
2011 10-4, SC and GaTech beat Dabo again and WV 70-33
And frankly, his "cleamsoning" continued for a few more years. Is Dabo a great coach?
We can play this same game with coach Saban if you want?
Jimbo has sailed his ship through rough waters like everyone else. The bottom line, he has won his fair share against Dabo. He has put NFL talent on the field and dominated opponents and conferences. He has won a NC. Now, he has got his act together in the toughest division in college football. Did I mention, he is also the second-best HC in the SEC?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:00 am to Globetrotter747
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If Georgia’s last title were’79 or ‘81
Technically, the sugar bowl was won 1981.
But keep posting. You are on a roll.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:04 am to bamameister
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2009 9-5, lost twice to GaTech that year
2010 6-7, SC beat them 29-7 and USF beat them in a bowl
2011 10-4, SC and GaTech beat Dabo again and WV 70-33
And frankly, his "cleamsoning" continued for a few more years.
Dabo wasn't recruiting top 5 in the country and putting teams full of NFL players on the field at this time.
You're comparing apples to oranges.
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The bottom line, he has won his fair share against Dabo.
He's 4-6 against Dabo and has lost 5 straight if you include his time at A&M.
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He has put NFL talent on the field and dominated opponents and conferences.
He dominated a weak ACC for two seasons with a team full of NFL players.
Won a national championship by 3 points over an Auburn team that was honestly lucky to even be there.
The next season, he lost to a far less talented Oregon team by 39 points in the playoff.
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Did I mention, he is also the second-best HC in the SEC?
Again, based on what exactly?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:06 am to meansonny
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This is a pretty recent phenomenon. But thank you
Yep. Although not nearly as tired as 1980, I see quite a bit of this fallacy. Richt was good, not great, and good was never going to be consistently competitive with Saban/Meyer. The gap between a #6-#10 class and a top 5 class is huge.
2010:11 Richt
2011:7
2012:9
2013:12
2014:8
2015:6
2016:6 Kirby
2017:3
2018:1
2019:2
2020:1
2021:4
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:10 am to Parrish_Dawg
Well Kirby has no excuses to not win a title now. Since 2016 there is plenty of talent in Athens to get it done. Even multiple titles based off of those recruiting numbers Kirby is pulling in.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:35 am to tiger perry
I don't think he's making any excuses, but to say we've recently been knocking on the door is an understatement.
Everyone knows it's extremely difficult to win a NC, particularly when you're in the SEC. You either need the lightning in a bottle year, or you have consistently competitive teams that will eventually break through. He's going down the latter path, which would probably have netted him at least one NC if in any other conference.
Everyone knows it's extremely difficult to win a NC, particularly when you're in the SEC. You either need the lightning in a bottle year, or you have consistently competitive teams that will eventually break through. He's going down the latter path, which would probably have netted him at least one NC if in any other conference.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:46 am to Parrish_Dawg
Looks like the gap between Georgia and Alabama has widened with that 41-24 loss.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:01 am to VagueMessage
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Not like 1980, though. A Georgia fan almost can't open their mouths without being hit with a barrage of 1980 comments. It's ridiculously prevalent.
What's most amusing is that in almost any other conference, and Georgia would be the second or third most successful team, including the "most recent national title" criteria. I'm pretty sure it's only the SEC that can boast 5 teams with more recent titles than UGA.
Number of different teams with national titles since 1981:
SEC: 5 (Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Tennessee)
ACC: 4 (Clemson, Miami*, Florida State, Georgia Tech)
B1G: 4 (Penn State*, Nebraska*, Ohio State, Michigan**)
Big 12: 2 (Oklahoma, Texas)
IND: 2 (BYU*, Notre Dame)
Pac-12: 3 (Colorado*, Washington, USC**,***)
Key:
* - won their titles in conferences other than the ones they belong to now.
** - teams won their titles without going through the BCS or its predecessor. 1997 Michigan went undefeated but was locked into the Rose Bowl, and 2003 USC won the AP poll but was #3 in the BCS rankings and did not play for the title.
*** - USC has a stripped national title in 2004.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:09 am to skrayper
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Nebraska
In 1998, Alabama had one national championship over a stretch of almost 20 years.
Nebraska was coming off three in the last four.
Since then, Alabama has added six, and Nebraska is in the midst of a 24-year dry spell.
Interesting how things can change.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:10 am to Sao
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I see 1939 used quite a bit.
But why is 1939 being mentioned here? Is there some kind of issue with USC?
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 9:11 am
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:13 am to SidewalkTiger
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Not sure what you call a great coach then. Jimbo had one lousy year at FSU and that team was devastated by injury. His teams are filled with NFL players. We took one of them in Dickerson. He can recruit and he can get them ready. He's more the X and O than Dabo ever thought about being.
He had two 10-3 seasons prior to the terrible year and keep in mind his teams clearly had the most talent in their conference.
2015:
22-16 loss to Georgia Tech
23-13 loss to Clemson
38-24 loss to Houston
2016:
63-20 loss to Louisville
37-35 loss to North Carolina
37-34 loss to Clemson
I rarely agree with Sidewalk over here, but he's telling the truth. FSU was WAY more talented vs other ACC teams, especially the ones he lost to. Maybe not 2016 Clemson, but otherwise yeah; he should have, at worst, been only losing to those Clemson teams. The Houston and Louisville losses are the biggest warning flags.
Recruiting rankings:
2011 - #2 National, #1 ACC
2012 - #4 National, #1 ACC
2013 - #11 National, #1 ACC
2014 - #4 National, #1 ACC
2015 - #3 National, #1 ACC
2016 - #3 National, #1 ACC
2017 - #6 National, #1 ACC
2013 was the only recruiting class where opposing ACC teams were within a couple of spots nationally; all others, there were several between FSU and the next school (typically Miami). If Jimbo was a great "X and O" coach along with the obvious talent advantage, he should have RULED that conference well after the 3 year run. He out recruited Clemson the entire time he was there.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:13 am to skrayper
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What's most amusing is that in almost any other conference, and Georgia would be the second or third most successful team, including the "most recent national title" criteria. I'm pretty sure it's only the SEC that can boast 5 teams with more recent titles than UGA.
UGA has had the 2nd or 3rd best team in the country like 4-5 times over the last 20 years. And living in Atlanta I have to say it's a ton of fun to mock them over their status as perpetual bridesmaid.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:32 am to Robot Santa
Georgia is always over rated & is the Michigan of the SEC !!!!!
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 9:33 am
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:42 am to ronricks
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Looks like the gap between Georgia and Alabama has widened with that 41-24 loss.
What? JT is miles better than Stet
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:49 am to dawgfan24348
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Looks like the gap between Georgia and Alabama has widened with that 41-24 loss.
What? JT is miles better than Stet
Yeah, not putting a lot of stock in that one. Even with such deficiencies we somehow went into half with the lead.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:49 am to HempHead
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In two years, we can use this gif with extreme prejudice.
I never rooted against Georgia, I like them. But for now, I have to.
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