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Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:04 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:04 am
When LSU decided to remove the interim tag from Ed Orgeron and actually name him head coach, much was made of the fact that, at that time and based off his stint at Ole Miss, Coach O had one of the ten worst winning percentages of any SEC head coach, ever. Everyone had a good laugh at LSU’s expense. However, much to my surprise, Orgeron has turned out to be an above average coach for the Bayou Bengals - at least through his first two full seasons at the helm. My question is: can this success hold? Did Coach O simply inherit a talented and well-coached team from Les Miles that he simply hasn’t had time to kill yet, or has he truly improved that much since his failed stint with the Rebels?
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Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:05 am to TheTideMustRoll
I ain't reading that wall of text.
GFY, Forrest.
ETA: We like what Ed's building. If nothing else, he's not the milquetoast deadweight Les Miles had become.
GFY, Forrest.
ETA: We like what Ed's building. If nothing else, he's not the milquetoast deadweight Les Miles had become.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:14 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:16 am to KennesawTiger
Good god, dude, it’s one fricking paragraph. Next time I’ll try the “One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish” approach for you since obviously words tax your brain. Here, I’ll try now: Coach O was suck. Now he good. Him stay good?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:21 am to TheTideMustRoll
Well Burrow wasn’t a Miles player, and he was a large part of our success last year. Tbh I think O inherited a team with more holes than a lot of people are willing admit. Yea they had talent but tbh in Miles last couple of years we didn’t look great out there as a team. I think he can sustain it, but we will find out this year, won’t we?
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:42 am to Terrific Tales
Thank you for a serious response. Personally I think Orgeron has improved greatly since his Ole Miss days, and it doesn’t hurt that LSU is a much better job, too. But I think he’s already shown what he now is, which is an above average coach who will keep you in the top half of the division. I don’t think he will ever win it, though.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:10 am to TheTideMustRoll
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Blue Fish” approach for you since obviously words tax your brain. Here, I’ll try now: Coach O was suck. Now he good. Him stay good?
LOL what does milquetoast mean?
Use Google, you lose.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:15 am to KennesawTiger
Hey buddy I don't know about if O will "win it" but I do believe he'll get LSU in the playoffs often.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:27 am to TheTideMustRoll
The man is a list of walking stereotypes.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:52 am to TheTideMustRoll
O has changed since his days at OM. He's learned and grown professionally. Everyone looks back at his time at Ole Miss and points out that he wasn't suited to be a head coach (and they are right); and now, one would be very hard pressed to look at his time at LSU and come to the same conclusion.
As far as if he can sustain it at LSU: why can't he? He's recruiting lights out. He has expanded LSU's recruiting brand and footprint from the region to the entire nation; he is focusing on getting kids to jump on board early; he is repairing recruiting relationships in La that appeared to become strained; he is fixing the issues that plagued Miles' teams (lack of QB play, offensive predictability, stupid penalties, etc.); and he is surrounding himself with great coaches and letting them coach (I still don't like the Ensminger promotion, but bringing Brady on board eases that concern a good bit).
I'm not sure what else a "successful" coach does that Orgeron isn't at this point. He's laying the foundation for success and has some impressive skins on the wall already. And to be clear: I was not a fan of the hire and how Alleva handled that, but you have to credit where it's due for O.
As far as if he can sustain it at LSU: why can't he? He's recruiting lights out. He has expanded LSU's recruiting brand and footprint from the region to the entire nation; he is focusing on getting kids to jump on board early; he is repairing recruiting relationships in La that appeared to become strained; he is fixing the issues that plagued Miles' teams (lack of QB play, offensive predictability, stupid penalties, etc.); and he is surrounding himself with great coaches and letting them coach (I still don't like the Ensminger promotion, but bringing Brady on board eases that concern a good bit).
I'm not sure what else a "successful" coach does that Orgeron isn't at this point. He's laying the foundation for success and has some impressive skins on the wall already. And to be clear: I was not a fan of the hire and how Alleva handled that, but you have to credit where it's due for O.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:12 am to TheTideMustRoll
I think O learned a lot during his time at USC. It's not like he went right from failure at Mississippi to LSU. He's also managed to retain Aranda, and has shown a willingness to try different approaches to the offense. Don't let Ensmiger fool you, no one sees him as a long-term solution - even Ensminger himself. He would like to transition to advisory role, but wants to help in the process. He's an LSU man, and only wants what's best for the team.
And as far as on the field coaching, one big improvement I've noticed over Miles is time/clock management.
O has two big upsets in his first two years, UGA last year, and Auburn the previous. He's shown he can win big games.
And as far as on the field coaching, one big improvement I've noticed over Miles is time/clock management.
O has two big upsets in his first two years, UGA last year, and Auburn the previous. He's shown he can win big games.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:15 am to TheTideMustRoll
Only one real answer...we fidna see.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:15 am to TheTideMustRoll
They didn't have the money to hire a coach worth a shite, so they had to settle on the fired ole mess coach.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:17 am to TheTideMustRoll
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Did Coach O simply inherit a talented and well-coached team from Les Miles that he simply hasn’t had time to kill yet,
This is not the case at all. IMO Coach O has improved the roster since he took over as HC. Just look at the QB position for reference. Under Miles the QB position was always in flux. From year to year you weren't sure who would be the starter. Now under Coach O you can see the plan at QB, Burrow this year Brennan next year, and then he has a group of young QB's ready to battle for the position after Brennan.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:35 am to TT9
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They didn't have the money
False.
Bama is a whopping 5 spots ahead of LSU in most recent revenue rankings. We spend our money on an athletic program. Not one sport.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:35 am to TheTideMustRoll
I was just so happy when Les was let go.
Then I was pissed that he was kept.
Then I was like; “well, joe, you shoulda fired him last year.”
Then I thought, “well, how bad is joe going to frick this up?”
Then he kept Ed and I said to myself, “ it was necessary, now maybe Ed can recruit, hire some coordinators and win”,
Then I was pissed that he was kept.
Then I was like; “well, joe, you shoulda fired him last year.”
Then I thought, “well, how bad is joe going to frick this up?”
Then he kept Ed and I said to myself, “ it was necessary, now maybe Ed can recruit, hire some coordinators and win”,
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:38 am to tygerphan
he knows that, TT9 is just an insufferable troll. don't waste your time
Posted on 7/29/19 at 6:41 am to tygerphan
Most valuable doesn't mean you have money in the bank. 
Posted on 7/29/19 at 7:54 am to TheTideMustRoll
At this point, keeping Ed Orgeron seems like a better decision than bringing in some experiment like PJ Fleck. Ed has kept us stable in recruiting, and this next class he’s bringing in is setting us up well to sustain success.
Ed won games that miles wouldn’t have the last few years. Les doesn’t beat Auburn (2017 or 2018) or Georgia last year, and Ed has turned the table with the wins over Arkansas after the Bama loss. Just because Arkansas isn’t good doesn’t explain why we would still lose to them. It was a mental issue with the team. Arkansas was winless in the SEC before their 17-0 win in 2014 after we almost/maybe should’ve beaten Bama if not for a very questionable personal foul at the 4 yard line and they kicked our arse in 2015 31-14
Ed won games that miles wouldn’t have the last few years. Les doesn’t beat Auburn (2017 or 2018) or Georgia last year, and Ed has turned the table with the wins over Arkansas after the Bama loss. Just because Arkansas isn’t good doesn’t explain why we would still lose to them. It was a mental issue with the team. Arkansas was winless in the SEC before their 17-0 win in 2014 after we almost/maybe should’ve beaten Bama if not for a very questionable personal foul at the 4 yard line and they kicked our arse in 2015 31-14
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 7:57 am
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:04 am to TheTideMustRoll
He inhereted Aranda and a program with a lot of built-in advantages. I haven’t been impressed with how long it’s taking to get someone to run whatever offense it is that he wants. He wasted a year on Canada, then picked a guy that had to try and come up with an offense in an offseason and now he’s added a passing game coordinator who was an errand boy for Sean Payton who is supposed to teach the team how to pass when the oline can’t hold its blocks for more than 3 seconds. He also supposedly has some better route trees.
All this instead of hiring a proven OC in year one who also ran an offense that he could live with.
When Aranda moves on, we’ll learn a lot more about O as LSU head coach.
All this instead of hiring a proven OC in year one who also ran an offense that he could live with.
When Aranda moves on, we’ll learn a lot more about O as LSU head coach.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 8:52 am to TheTideMustRoll
EdO has improved greatly since ole miss. Almost as much as saban from 2000 to present day. While practicing for the bowl game after the '16 season Aranda said to EdO " coach you do know we have more kickers on scholarship than LBs"? A couple of years later. Four LSU LBs are on the Butkus watch list heading into the '19 season. Has that ever happened at bama or any other place?
As for this season and beyond. Truly expecting LSU to be in playoff conversation thru thanksgiving. Judging by how this recruiting class is shaping up the future looks pretty good too.
As for this season and beyond. Truly expecting LSU to be in playoff conversation thru thanksgiving. Judging by how this recruiting class is shaping up the future looks pretty good too.
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