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Early F+ Projections on big SEC games

Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:08 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:08 am
Based on prior year results vs expectation, anything between 50-60% is basically a toss up. 60% to 70% is a slight favorite. Anything between 70-75% is solid favorite but losing wouldn't be out of the question, anything 75-85% is pretty heavy favorite and 85%+ is basically a lock.


Florida vs Michigan : Michigan by 2.0 (55%)
LSU vs BYU : LSU by 18.5 (86%)
Alabama vs Florida State : Alabama by 8.3 (68%)
UCLA vs Texas A&M : Texas A&M by 3.4 (58%)
Tennessee vs Georgia Tech : Tennessee by 2.6 (56%)
Clemson vs Auburn : Clemson by 4.8 (61%)
Notre Dame vs Georgia : Notre Dame by 3.8 (59%)
Arkansas vs TCU : TCU by 1.8 (54%)
California vs Ole Miss : Ole Miss by 4.8 (61%)
Mississippi State vs LSU : LSU by 12.2 (76%)
Florida vs Tennessee : Florida by 9.1 (70%)
Tennessee vs Georgia : Tennessee by 0.4 (51%)
Florida vs LSU : LSU by 3.0 (57%)
LSU vs Auburn : LSU by 5.8 (63%)
Alabama vs Tennessee : Alabama by 25.3 (93%)
Florida vs Georgia : Florida by 4.4 (60%)
South Carolina vs Florida : Florida by 8.5 (69%)
Alabama vs LSU : Alabama by 13.2 (78%)
Tennessee vs LSU : LSU by 9.6 (71%)
Auburn vs Georgia : Auburn by 9.1 (70%)
LSU vs Arkansas : LSU by 17.2 (84%)
Auburn vs Alabama : Alabama by 11.6 (75%)
Florida vs Florida State : Florida State by 5.4 (62%)
Georgia Tech vs Georgia : Georgia by 2.2 (55%)
Mississippi State vs Ole Miss : Mississippi State by 0.3 (51%)
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 6:40 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:13 am to
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Auburn vs Georgia : Auburn by 9.1 (70%)


seems pretty ridiculous
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:16 am to
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Auburn vs Alabama : Alabama by 11.6 (75%)


Little high.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
15998 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:27 am to
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LSU vs Arkansas : LSU by 17.2 (84%)
I really don't get this. All trolling aside outside of the last year this game is normally pretty close and competitive no matter who wins.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:29 am to
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I really don't get this. All trolling aside outside of the last year this game is normally pretty close and competitive no matter who wins.


They are based on stats, not human judgment. The stats say LSU is 17 points better than Arkansas at home, and I think that seems like a pretty fair assessment heading into the season.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25871 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:31 am to
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I really don't get this. All trolling aside outside of the last year this game is normally pretty close and competitive no matter who wins.

Preseason advanced stats are an inexact science at best.

Look at a team like Michigan. They lost like 20 starters. There is no way to get a good handle on what expectations should be, especially down to tenths of a point.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24854 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:32 am to
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Alabama vs Tennessee : Alabama by 25.3 (93%)


Highest win probability on the board. This approaches rent-a-win out of conference cupcake probability levels. What a shame what's happened to this former great rivalry.
Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:34 am to
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Highest win probability on the board. This approaches rent-a-win out of conference cupcake probability levels. What a shame what's happened to this former great rivalry.


"But, but, life-champions" and all that
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71141 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:35 am to
How many of those were favorites last year?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:36 am to
Gamblers will buy anything that they think will give them an edge. That is why most live in rentals.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:37 am to
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How many of those were favorites last year?


The preseason predictions are by far the most volatile, but once we get to about Week 3 the predictions are almost 95% of the time within the "win % prediction" meter. It's pretty incredibly accurate overall.

But right now it's definitely a hodge podge of prior year stats, returning production, recruiting, etc.
Posted by UAtide11
Member since Apr 2014
2190 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:37 am to
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Florida vs Tennessee : Florida by 9.1 (70%)
Alabama vs Tennessee : Alabama by 25.3 (93%)
Tennessee vs LSU : LSU by 9.6 (71%)


Posted by Pinche Cabron
TN
Member since Nov 2015
3639 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:38 am to
Yep... Butch gone after this season
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:44 am to
vs UGA 51% but vs @UF (UF has a 70 percent chance). Now I would say this is due to home field advantage but then the stat says LSU winning @Neyland is 71 percent (that's ridiculous).
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:47 am to
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Gamblers will buy anything that they think will give them an edge. That is why most live in rentals.


We get it, it doesn't say Auburn 12-0 so it's dumb and stupid and you don't like it.

Understood.

Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:56 am to
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Alabama vs Tennessee : Alabama by 25.3 (93%)
LSU vs Auburn : LSU by 5.8 (63%)
Florida vs Tennessee : Florida by 9.1 (70%)
Tennessee vs Georgia Tech : Tennessee by 2.6 (56%)


Ones that stood out to me. Seems to be very down on Tennessee and up on Georgia Tech.
Posted by TonyMontana
Member since Jul 2017
1169 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:59 am to
LSU is incredibly overvalued.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 10:59 am to
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Ones that stood out to me. Seems to be very down on Tennessee and up on Georgia Tech.



If it's including last year's defensive stats then all predictions for UT are very much fricked up. That defense finished near the bottom of CFB due to an unprecedented number of injuries.

We lost more starts than any team in all of CFB due to injuries.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:02 am to
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If it's including last year's defensive stats then all predictions for UT are very much fricked up. That defense finished near the bottom of CFB due to an unprecedented number of injuries.


It probably does to some extent (mainly because it can't guess what the stats would have been), but it clearly doesn't entirely as Tennessee finished 52nd in defense in 2016 per S&P+ and is predicted to finish 38th this year.
Posted by iluvredboxx
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2012
899 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:03 am to
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I really don't get this. All trolling aside outside of the last year this game is normally pretty close and competitive no matter who wins.


I agree
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