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Dumb analyst talking point
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:14 pm
“Will X fanbase be patient enough to let coach X build a program”
Just a mindless comment I always hear from talking heads. This situation hardly ever comes about. coach either has it or he doesn’t. A good coach will deliver a significantly better product from day one. I cant think of the last slow burn to success where a coach took 4-5 seasons to win a championship. A good coach doesn’t require patience because he immediately brings excitement from day one. Only bad coaches require patience from the fans.
Just a mindless comment I always hear from talking heads. This situation hardly ever comes about. coach either has it or he doesn’t. A good coach will deliver a significantly better product from day one. I cant think of the last slow burn to success where a coach took 4-5 seasons to win a championship. A good coach doesn’t require patience because he immediately brings excitement from day one. Only bad coaches require patience from the fans.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 6:38 pm
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:18 pm to bamafan1001
All you need to know is recruiting rankings in year 2 3
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:20 pm to bamafan1001
Hell Arkansas fans were on board with Bert through most of the 2016 season
Most fanbase will give time as long as some growth is evident. Most only want to cut the cord when things stay the same or take a step back
Most fanbase will give time as long as some growth is evident. Most only want to cut the cord when things stay the same or take a step back
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:28 pm to bamafan1001
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A good coach will deliver a significantly better product from day one.
Kirby Smart went 4-4 in the SEC East with losses to Vanderbilt, Ole Miss and Georgia Tech, in his first year.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:30 pm to NFLSU
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Kirby Smart went 4-4 in the SEC East with losses to Vanderbilt, Ole Miss and Georgia Tech, in his first year.
He lost to Lyle fricking Jones.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 6:37 pm to NFLSU
And year 2 he was one play away from a national championship. I get your point, but im sure Georgia fans saw enough to know they had a potentially very good coach.
What you just never see is a coach go 5-6, 7-5, 8-4, 9-3, 11-1, championship. If it ever happens its at a place with lower stakes.
My ultimate point is that patience never works. Fans that see improvement don’t require patience.
What you just never see is a coach go 5-6, 7-5, 8-4, 9-3, 11-1, championship. If it ever happens its at a place with lower stakes.
My ultimate point is that patience never works. Fans that see improvement don’t require patience.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 7:01 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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He lost to Lyle fricking Jones.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 7:21 pm to bamafan1001
U can tell if a coach is making progress right away. When I go back to sabans first year, yea u had the ulm thing but u also saw them take a very good Georgia team to overtime, outplay eventual national champ Lsu and beatdown sec east champion Tennessee 41-17. U could tell it was rising. Same with Kirby in 2016. Georgia just looked better under him. U could plainly see Georgia was going up a notch. I agree, u just know before x number of years pass.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 7:25 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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He lost to Lyle fricking Jones.
He's gonna add a loss to Ed fricking Orgeron this year.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 8:09 pm to memphisplaya
Freeze went:
7-6, 8-5, 9-4, 10-3, and then straight to the massage parlor resulting in 5-7.
7-6, 8-5, 9-4, 10-3, and then straight to the massage parlor resulting in 5-7.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 8:23 pm to GreyReb
Freeze never sniffed an SEC title much less a playoff birth. Everyone knew he was what Gus is at the barn. Gimmick offense that produces enough wins to make it hard to fire him, but never truly a championship level coach.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 7:48 am to GreyReb
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Freeze went:
7-6, 8-5, 9-4, 10-3, and then straight to the massage parlor resulting in 5-7.
Fair point. Freeze is a good coach and those records at Ole Miss after the mess they had before that was a huge turnaround. The fans knew he was improving the program and they didnt have to be patient. The equivalent to the argument im making I guess would have Freeze starting off 4-8 or something like that(OM was 2-10 the year before).
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:25 am to NFLSU
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Kirby Smart went 4-4 in the SEC East with losses to Vanderbilt, Ole Miss and Georgia Tech, in his first year.
He was also a few flukes away from finishing 11-2.
Saban went 4-4 in the SEC in year one at Bama with a loss to ULM.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:34 am to Tuscaloosa
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He was also a few flukes away from finishing 11-2.
He was also close to having 9 losses as well
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:00 am to bamafan1001
If I never hear the terms, “talking point” or, “narrative” again, it’ll be too soon. I can’t believe people aren’t embarrassed to use them still.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:22 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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If I never hear the terms, “talking point” or, “narrative” again, it’ll be too soon.
When hear the same exact thing from different people who are supposed to have their own informed opinion, its a talking point. Its just lazy IMO. What set me off was some chode on Finebaum talking UT fans needing to be patient. Its a dumb talking point. No UT fan is expecting an SEC championship this season
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:26 am to bamafan1001
Does Clemson fit in this narrative?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:29 am to tider04
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Freeze never sniffed an SEC title much less a playoff birth.
Got to disagree there. Ole Piss was one fluke play by R-Kansas away from being the SEC West Champ.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:33 am to memphisplaya
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He's gonna add a loss to Ed fricking Orgeron this year.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:33 am to meansonny
...or Spurrier with the Cocks.
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