re: DSOR - is this game being shelved/lost?

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DSOR - is this game being shelved/lost?
Whatever the SEC does will involve securing the old interdivisional crossover cash cows: LSU-UF, UA-UT, AU-UGA.

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Yep, I have been sayin the same thing.

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DSOR - is this game being shelved/lost?
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I saw where one guy said that there should be two old school pods with the original 10 , add four more and allow the newbies to have their two newbie pods.


I could support something like that

I’d rather see each team select 4 permanent rivalry games and rotate the rest with 9 conference games

AL - AU, LSU, MS St, TN
AR - LSU, OK, TX, aTm
AU - AL, FL, GA, TX
FL - AU, GA, SC, TN
GA - AU, FL, MS, SC
KY - MS St, OK, TN, Vandy
LSU - AL, AR, MS, MS St
MS - GA, LSU, MS St, Vandy
MS St - AL, KY, LSU, MS
MO - KY, SC, aTm, Vandy
OK - AR, KY, TX , aTm
SC - FL, GA, MO, TN
TN - AL, FL, KY, Vandy
TX - AU, AR, OK, aT
aTm - AR, MO, OK, TX
Vandy - KY, MS, MO, SC

That system preserves all the rivalries that matter

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a 4 permanent + 5 rotation for 9 games is not an easy rotation. So 4 teams plus yourself equals 5 teams, that leaves 11. So those teams are 1, 2, 3, ......11

Year 1 you play 4 permanent and teams 1 to 5.
Year 2 your play 4 permanent and teams 6-10.
Year 3 you play teams 11 to 4, etc

That is going to lead to some very lopsided cross over 5 games as you work through it.

What are the true "rival games" 4 are what I call the historic non-negotiables 1) Auburn/UGA, 2) Auburn/Bama, 3) Florida/UGA and 4) Bama/TENN.

When OU and TX come in, for the new SEC and TV games and these 2 schools, and Texas A&M, there are 2 other new SEC "Non Negotiables"

5) Texas/OU
6) Texas A&M/Texas

I would add 2 other games that are in-state rivals.

7) Ole Miss/Miss. State is a legitimate rival game, just not with the same ability to move TV sets as the other 6.
8) TENN/Vandy, they should play and if I am TENN I need to play to make sure I am in Nashville ever other year as they need to recruit that area better if they are going to make some sort of comeback.

So what other games are close to being a rival game, LSU/Florida and LSU/Texas A&M. By rival, I mean a game that is defined where both schools from the oldest fan to the youngest, every alum, every person who lives in those said states support their State School, every former player, Coach, Administrator views the other school as a rivaly. Numbers 1 through 7 clearly do above.

I would say for LSU/Texas A&M and LSU/Florida, that would be a game where from the Aggie and Florida side, we are their #2 game (close to a rival) and for LSU it does have the same feel.

so all you need is 3 permanents and 6 rotation

LSU's permanents are Texas A&M, Florida and Ole Miss.

Ole Miss is a team LSU has its most history with along with Miss. State, but Ole Miss considers LSU is #2 rival behind State and large Segments of LSU's fanbase over say 40/45 years old see Ole Miss as their #1 or #2 rival along with Tulane back then when LSU played both.

LSU plays those 3, rotate 6 in years 1 and 2, then in years 3 and 4, the other 6.

Very balanced and even rotation, gets you through the entire league in 4 years playing every team twice (home and home).

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They are in Atlanta, which brings a lot of eyeballs

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Their fans in Atlanta don't bring a lot of eyeballs.Georgia fans in Atlanta bring far more viewers to the table.I would bet AU probably has more "eyeballs" in Atlanta.
The OOC slots are gonna become more and more valuable moving forward.We can get far more "eyeballs" with bigger names.

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we see “super conferences”, GA Tech will survive in either a restructured ACC or an expanded B1G

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They are teetering on the edge right now.

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I would bet AU probably has more "eyeballs" in Atlanta.

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I may be wrong, but Auburn at one point was only second to UGA or maybe behind UGA & Tech in # of alumni in the Atlanta area.

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The DSOR will survive either in a pod system or if Auburn moves to the east (hopefully).

I would love to play Bama, UGA, Florida and UT every season. Bring back Amen Corner.

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Yeah I dont care who else is in our pod, assuming we go to a pod system, so long as we get Auburn and Tennessee every year

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so are you going to tell us what dsor is

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Deep South's Oldest Rivalry. Auburn vs. UGA

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I may be wrong, but Auburn at one point was only second to UGA or maybe behind UGA & Tech in # of alumni in the Atlanta area.

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Probably but again when you are talking about alumni numbers that is a very small group of people. Auburn has like 200,000 total living alumni

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I saw where one guy said that there should be two old school pods with the original 10 , add four more and allow the newbies to have their two newbie pods.

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Here it is..

West
Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State
A-Texas, Arkansas, Texas A&M

East
Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
B-Oklahoma, Missouri, SC

East / West Schedule
Play your Division - 7 games
Play Perm - 1 game
Rotate other 2 games

A & B rotate from East to West every year, therefore you play every team at least twice every 4 years.

Auburn Even Year Schedule
Division: Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State
Rotating Division A: Texas, A&M, Arkansas
Permanent Game: Georgia
Rotate East: Tennessee, Kentucky

Auburn Odd Year Schedule
Division: Alabama, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss State
Rotating Division B: Oklahoma Missouri, SC
Permanent Game: Georgia
Rotate East: Florida, Vanderbilt

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I like the 3 permanent over the Pods on multiple levels. Most importantly it allows for teams with great rivalry games with strong programs not to get screwed. They have to play but that's a lot different than being tied to a Pod that might affect who wins the Championship.

Texas will take Arkie over Mizzou. Their 3 are A&M/OU/Arkie. Tons of history with all 3.

The 3 teams A&M has LONG histories with are Texas, Arkie, and LSU. Texas is obvious. Arkansas has the SWC connection and Arkie loves to play us. The LSU rivalry is a funky one but it basically has become the battle over East Texas and Houston and who controls it.

A&M had no real history with OU or Mizzou prior to the Big 12. I would imagine OU gets thrown in out of geography but the schools really don't have any feelings toward each other considering proximity. Mainly we both just really hate Texas and it's an enemy of my enemy relationship.

A&M has absolutely nothing in common with Mizzou outside of a few years in the B12 and even then they were in the North and we were in the South so we didn't play that often. Oklahoma has the most history with them. Mizzou/Arkie makes sense. Then I guess it is rock/paper/scissors with the Mississippi schools or even Tennessee/Vandy/Kentucky

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The LSU/A&M game is a good one, even in the 70's growing up, it was always one of my favorite LSU home games.

I agree, LSU and Texas A&M battle in East Texas recruiting but Texas A&M comes into LA as well. LA HS football next year is going to have 3 legitimate upper echelon QB recruits. One of them is Arch Manning, a 5-star, and the other 2 are both 4-stars, Texas A&M commitment Eli Holstein from Zachary which is in East Baton Rouge Parish and suburb of Baton Rouge and Rickie Collins of Baton Rouge-Woodlawn HS.

So if Eli takes over the starting job for the Aggies, having a Baton Rouge area kid playing QB for you all could make it all the more interesting.