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Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:20 am to Govt Tide
yea, LSU is one of the best 4 teams in the country and thats what the playoff is inclusive of
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:25 am to Govt Tide
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OU has the name recognition and feel good story
I'm thinking LSU has a pretty decent feel-good story as well. Pitting an OSU transfer against OSU in a championship game? Check. Name recognition? Check.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:29 am to Govt Tide
Depends.
I think if we lose a close game (one possession),
we're in.
Get handled (14+ point loss), and I think we're out.
I think if we lose a close game (one possession),
we're in.
Get handled (14+ point loss), and I think we're out.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:30 am to Ms Anthrope
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I'm thinking LSU has a pretty decent feel-good story as well. Pitting an OSU transfer against OSU in a championship game? Check. Name recognition? Check.
Good point. Don't know why I forgot about Burrow being an tOSU transfer. (thumbs up)
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:34 am to Govt Tide
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Oklahoma and Utah
I would put up a 1 loss LSU's resume against anything these teams can do.
Does resume matter to the CFP? That's the question. But ultimately it's not close
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:35 am to Govt Tide
LSU has to win to get in 100%. If UGA wins I do not see LSU getting in over other 1 loss conference champs. My guess is they would drop to 5, which is sad because I still think they are one of the two best teams in the country.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:35 am to Govt Tide
quote:Did LSU lose to a team in the regular season that is in their own division?
I'll admit that I wouldn't mind seeing you guys get in the playoff even if you lose this Saturday just to see the mental gymnastics some of your fellow Tiger fans will use in explaining how it was completely justified this year as opposed to either 2011 or 2017 for Alabama...lol
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:38 am to SportTiger1
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Does resume matter to the CFP? That's the question. But ultimately it's not close
No that is the issue because if resumes matter UA would not have been sitting at 5 after losing to LSU. And every LSU fan here agrees with that because it was stated in hundreds of multiple threads regarding it. UA did not have a resume to justify their ranking at 5 nor getting in if they beat AU.
Brand recognition will play a big part in the end if they were to lose to UGA. If Burrows wins the Heisman I think it would give them the edge.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:39 am to LC412000
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If LSU is ranked 2 or 3 this week and lose to Georgia then no playoffs
3 ain't happening. Not after dismantling Aggy.
But I could see the committee elevating Utah over LSU if LSU loses to UGA, especially if Utah wins convincingly and so does UGA.
The committee is certainly biased against teams that don't win their conference and will only take them if they aren't conference champs worthy of inclusion.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:42 am to TideWarrior
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No that is the issue because if resumes matter UA would not have been sitting at 5 after losing to LSU.
Nm - misunderstood your post
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:47 am to SportTiger1
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If you want to argue that point based on eyetest, go ahead. But Bama pre-auburn loss did not have the resume (good wins) that UGA had
I agree UA did not have the resume but the UA has national brand recognition. We should have not been sitting at 5. Even with Tua our D would have struggled to hold teams down in the playoffs and would needed some luck to win.
I am not saying it is fair just different teams are considered for different reasons. LSU should not have been dropped to #2 behind OSU and I hate to say it if that was UA in that spot they would still be at #1.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:53 am to Govt Tide
Non conference losers should never be allowed to play for a NC. I have maintained that since 2001 when Nebraska snuck in.
I know LSU fans will flame me. But... just because Bama did it twice, doesn't make it right IMO.
I know LSU fans will flame me. But... just because Bama did it twice, doesn't make it right IMO.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:57 am to 225Tyga
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yea, LSU is one of the best 4 teams in the country and thats what the playoff is inclusive of
I agree which aside from my OP being a legitimate thing to consider is part of my overall point in asking the question in the first place.
Personally, I believe (barring the highly unlikely event of a serious meltdown and convincing loss by LSU Saturday) LSU is one of the 4 best teams in the country even with a respectable loss to Georgia so I (unlike so many LSU fans in 2011) am not arguing that LSU should be put of the playoff behind a 1 loss Big 12 or Pac 12 conference champion. That's why I always found the argument so many LSU fans and other college football fanbases in other leagues about winning your conference being the end all be all for getting in the playoff so disingenuous.
The 2011 Alabama team (and this year's LSU team) are great examples of why it's so absurd to hold fast to that line of thinking when picking the "4 best teams" (or 2 best teams in the case of 2011).
This year's LSU team has clearly proven they're one of the 4 best teams even with a competitive loss (should it happen) to Georgia. LSU had arguably the greatest single regular season run in college football history in 2011 and Alabama beat the absolute dogs### out of every team on their schedule that year minus LSU. That fact and Oklahoma State's bad loss to a .500 Iowa State team are the reasons Alabama deservedly got into the BCS championship game and rematch with LSU that year.
In other words, the conference championship "requirement" is stupid and should only apply if the teams vying for the final playoff spot are essentially dead even in every way. I would argue Bama was a significantly better team all things considered than Oklahoma State in 2011.
As for my OP and people crapping on it, I thought it was a question that at least warrants some consideration. It isn't as if it LSU barely missing the playoff with a loss to Georgia isn't at least a possibility if all the other elite and favored teams all win. I personally believe LSU deserves a spot even with a competitive loss on Saturday. I just posed the question because I think there is (or should be) some concern on the part of LSU fans if y'all lose Saturday even though I think y'all would be justified in arguing you deserve a spot over a 1 loss Big 12 or Pac 12 champion. That's all.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:10 pm to ShermanTxTiger
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Non conference losers should never be allowed to play for a NC. I have maintained that since 2001 when Nebraska snuck in.
I know LSU fans will flame me. But... just because Bama did it twice, doesn't make it right IMO.
Respectfully disagree. For example, what if North Carolina had hung on to beat Clemson? Can you honestly say that Clemson is more deserving than LSU of being in the playoff just because Clemson went on to win out and win the ACC and LSU's only loss happened to come in a close one to #4 ranked Georgia in the SEC championship game?
Clemson would be a conference champion and LSU wouldn't be in that scenario but does Clemson's conference championship mean Clemson has the better resume?
The answer is pretty obvious which is why making a conference championship a requirement of entry into the 4 team playoff so unreliable.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:16 pm to Govt Tide
well the gumps didnt even win their own division of their conference both of those years, so no its not the same if LSU were to lose the SECCG
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:27 pm to Govt Tide
Nope..the powers that be would much rather have Utah than a team with the Heisman winner, Davey O’Brien winner, belitnikov winner, Paul Hornung winner, Coach of the year winner, assistant coach of the year winner etc.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 12:31 pm to Govt Tide
The only thing that I’m sure of is Bama going to the Liberty Bowl
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:37 pm to Govt Tide
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Respectfully disagree. For example, what if North Carolina had hung on to beat Clemson? Can you honestly say that Clemson is more deserving than LSU of being in the playoff just because Clemson went on to win out and win the ACC and LSU's only loss happened to come in a close one to #4 ranked Georgia in the SEC championship game?
So you are talking about strength of schedule and quality wins as a litmus (eye ball test)? If that was the case, Bama never should have been in any conversation this year.
Yes, Georgia goes instead of LSU and so does Clemson.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 1:42 pm to PT24-7
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Of course we will, we’ll have the best loss in the country....
Not true according to most on here. We’re garbage. Curb stomping is eminent. We should forfeit.
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