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Does Iowa State & Baylor hold the clue as to how to stop high-octane offenses like LSU?
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:49 pm
The 3-3-5 (or 3-2-6) type defense is the magic key?
Great article about Clemson's Venables and his visit to Iowa State...also, Kirby Smart/Baylor situation is talked about.
Tonight, we'll get to see if Clemson employs this defense, as they did against Ohio State beginning in the late 2nd quarter, effectively stopping the Buckeyes & Justin Fields from there on out.
This game tonight is going to be very, very interesting.
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Great article about Clemson's Venables and his visit to Iowa State...also, Kirby Smart/Baylor situation is talked about.
Tonight, we'll get to see if Clemson employs this defense, as they did against Ohio State beginning in the late 2nd quarter, effectively stopping the Buckeyes & Justin Fields from there on out.
This game tonight is going to be very, very interesting.
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Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:50 pm to RatRodDawg
Because the BIG12 has been a bastion of suffocating defense and low scoring games right?
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:50 pm to RatRodDawg
If they put it on tape then Joe Brady and the staff already have a way to beat it
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:52 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Because the BIG12 has been a bastion of suffocating defense and low scoring games right?
Why don't you just read the article first before responding in such a bastion of suffocating low-IQ idiocy?
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:53 pm to RatRodDawg
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effectively stopping the Buckeyes & Justin Fields
Ohio state had over 500 yards of offense. There were also 2 dropped TD passes. I wouldn't call this effectively stopping...
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:53 pm to RatRodDawg
If only we had example from within our conference as to how to keep LSU’s offense in relative check.
Hmmm
Hmmm
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:55 pm to ThaiTiger24
Also there is one conference team that had slowed down Clemson (still loss because the offense stinks).
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:55 pm to Datfish
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Ohio state had over 500 yards of offense. There were also 2 dropped TD passes. I wouldn't call this effectively stopping...
Most of that was accomplished in the first half, my friend, before Clemson adjusted and switched defenses.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:59 pm to RatRodDawg
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Tonight, we'll get to see if Clemson employs this defense, as they did against Ohio State beginning in the late 2nd quarter, effectively stopping the Buckeyes & Justin Fields from there on out.
Here's what turned the game for Clemson:
1. After running through Clemson like a hot knife through butter Dobbins rolls his ankle and loses his burst and cutting ability
2. A drive ending play gets extended when Ohio St is called for targeting (right call BTW)
3. OSU roughs the Clemson punter
Those 3 completely changed the momentum of the game. I could also add the WR turning out instead of in what would have been the game winner but instead was the INT that put OSU away.
Credit to Clemson for hanging in and coming back, but OSU blew an opportunity to finish off Clemson.
This post was edited on 1/13/20 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:00 pm to Datfish
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Ohio state had over 500 yards of offense. There were also 2 dropped TD passes. I wouldn't call this effectively stopping...
Dobbins hurting his ankle did more to slow their offense than anything Clemson did.
This post was edited on 1/13/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:02 pm to RatRodDawg
Traditional defense has no chance against it, so don't see why this would be worse. The big key of course using it is containing the run game in this type of defense.
Though if I'm Clemson I'd happily let LSU run the ball if it contained the pass game.
Though if I'm Clemson I'd happily let LSU run the ball if it contained the pass game.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:02 pm to RatRodDawg
The problem with trotting out the 3-3-5 and expecting to shut LSU down completely is that the Bayou Bengals actually have a running game when they need it. The 3-3-5 has always been susceptible to down hill runners and LSU has one of those.
Scatbacks, mobile QBs, and pass happy schemes... yes, the 3-3-5 or 3-2-6 are perfectly fine. But LSU can, if they want too, just line up and tee off on Clemson. If they go heavy DB I would fully expect LSU to put in the big beasts and wear them out on the line of scrimmage.
Scatbacks, mobile QBs, and pass happy schemes... yes, the 3-3-5 or 3-2-6 are perfectly fine. But LSU can, if they want too, just line up and tee off on Clemson. If they go heavy DB I would fully expect LSU to put in the big beasts and wear them out on the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:03 pm to RatRodDawg
Auburn was pretty successful with the 3-1-7. They had dudes on the line though.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:04 pm to RatRodDawg
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The 3-3-5 (or 3-2-6) type defense is the magic key?
Auburn ran the 3-1-7. It threw them off, I think less than 50 yards in the 1 quarter. But they adjusted to it. Still held them to 24 points.
Georgia tried to replicate that but it didn't work.
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While Auburn limited LSU to 10 points in the first half, which included two punts, a fumble and a turnover on downs by Ed Orgeron’s team (and just 47 first-quarter yards), Georgia wasn’t nearly as successful with the 3-1-7 look, giving up 14 points in the first quarter — with LSU getting touchdown on two of its first three drives — on the way to a 37-10 SEC title game loss.
So, why was Auburn’s approach more successful than Georgia’s defensively against LSU?
“We were able to just go out there and apply pressure on Joe (Burrow) from a three-man rush,” Auburn defensive tackle Derrick Brown said this week while in Atlanta for the College Football Awards Show. “It was something that coach (Kevin) Steele put in a week before, and it was kind of like a whirlwind, because it was just different. It was just kind of one of those things that Coach Steele put in that was able to put us in a position to win.”
Georgia’s inability to adequately pressure Burrow — and allow him to escape and make plays when the Bulldogs did get in the backfield — was ultimately the biggest difference.
This post was edited on 1/13/20 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:04 pm to ThaiTiger24
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If only we had example from within our conference as to how to keep LSU’s offense in relative check.
Yep, all you have to do is have multiple NFL defensive linemen, hold LSU to 500 yards, and hope coach O decides not to kick field goals.
Seriously, though - the key to Auburn’s success was their DL. Multiple teams have tried to mimic that scheme to some extent, but none of them have the talent up front that Auburn has.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:08 pm to ipodking
You beat it by running the damn ball. Feed Clyde and u win.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:08 pm to lostinbr
This is why I said relative check. Obviously there isn’t a team in the nation that has completely held LSUnin check and I don’t see it happening tonight
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:12 pm to RatRodDawg
i am guessing they will look to Auburn on how to stop them from scoring high.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:13 pm to Slackaveli
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You beat it by running the damn ball. Feed Clyde and u win.
I think people discount what Clyde can do. He has 1300 yards rushing and 16 TDs this season. He also leads the SEC in receiving yards by a RB.
Posted on 1/13/20 at 2:22 pm to RatRodDawg
Fine I’ll try reading.
After reading the article, it appears that Clemson had to employ this defense to stop OSU. If there is film on this defense, Burrow, Brady, and ensminger can gameplan for it. The only time this offense was slowed down was when something completely new (3-1-7) was thrown at them and those 3 were all NFL caliber DL players with two being nfl caliber DT’s.
I don’t believe Clemson has that this year, so, good luck
After reading the article, it appears that Clemson had to employ this defense to stop OSU. If there is film on this defense, Burrow, Brady, and ensminger can gameplan for it. The only time this offense was slowed down was when something completely new (3-1-7) was thrown at them and those 3 were all NFL caliber DL players with two being nfl caliber DT’s.
I don’t believe Clemson has that this year, so, good luck
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