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re: Dodd: P5, NCAA now officially adversaries, and a breakaway may only be a matter of time

Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:27 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118864 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:27 am to
Good, time to disband and defund the NCAA.
Posted by Hogfan13
Member since Jul 2019
2944 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:32 am to
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If there is a high ground to be gained here, there will be a slippery slope to get there for either side.


peejayscammedGT = TRIGGERED!

Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77292 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:38 am to
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Colorado will not go back to the Big 12.

There has only been ONE instance in which a team left a conference then returned to that same conference and that was Temple, who was kicked out of the Big East then allowed to return.

No school that voluntarily left a conference has ever returned to that conference.





Ok lets see...

BIG 12: Hey Colorado want to rejoin the Big 12 and remain in a Power Conference with the money that comes with as we expand to 16 teams or look for a new home in a group of group of 5 or remain in what's left of the PAC and earn substantially less money?

Colorado: nah we good, its not about the money, we don't like Texas...

Yeah, right...


Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9149 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:40 am to
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Good, time to disband and defund the NCAA.

The NCAA was created and run by the schools, not some bogeyman. If the P5 breaks away, they'll start a NCAA-like organization that will likely end up with something similar to what they have now.

But I'm a fan of chaos so I say go for it.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79936 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:52 pm to
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UConn just did it. They officially rejoined the Big East on July 1st.


Then they would be the first. They also cancelled their football program if I'm not mistaken.

Also, did UConn really leave the Big East or did the Big East leave them?

If I'm not mistaken, the catholic schools broke away and formed their own conference and the Big East rebranded themselves as the American Conference so that the new conference could take the name.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 3:54 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79936 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:55 pm to
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BIG 12: Hey Colorado want to rejoin the Big 12 and remain in a Power Conference with the money that comes with as we expand to 16 teams or look for a new home in a group of group of 5 or remain in what's left of the PAC and earn substantially less money?

Colorado: nah we good, its not about the money, we don't like Texas...


You're assuming that the four California schools would allow the PAC to fail. While the University of California system is batshit insane, Stanford and USC are not.
Posted by Bengalbio
Tampa, FL
Member since Feb 2017
1415 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 6:17 pm to
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Who cares? This has nothing to do with CFB and who cares about "administrating" non revenue fall sports?

Sounds like a big pain in the arse not worth anyone's time.



Agreed. Also, a championship in all other sports wouldn’t be a real championship because resourced conferences don’t claim all titles.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:20 pm to
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You are aware of the fact that, across the entire spectrum of life, if you're staring at yourself in the mirror every morning and repeatedly insisting to yourself that, "it's everybody else who's the problem, everybody else who is in the wrong" that you can be certain it's a lie, right?

When that happens, especially when it happens serially like with you, you can know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the delusional, dysfunctional narcissist is the man in the mirror who's denying it. You know that, right?

Also, unfortunately, I surmise a whisper's worth of mental retardation on your part, which means recovery is unlikely.

Congrats on the GT logo though

Given all that stuff you wrote above, no BS'n, no hemming and hawing,
answer this simple question:

Given the fact that the P5 Colleges gross $6 Billion Dollars each normal non CV19 year, do you think it is more fair to give the Revenue Producers larger Stipends or keep this system the way it is and hide behind BS like "shAmateurism" or purity of the Game, or the Coach's genius is what creates all that money..... yada yada yada

Maybe if you'd read thru some of these biased ridiculous ideas and replies then maybe you'd know that it is indeed them and not me

I think most here know that the Players deserve a lot more economically, not 50% like those Pac12 guys suggested, but they do deserve a lot more

Go watch the Movie, "12 Angry Men" and think of me as Henry Fonda, that's kinda the same dynamic around here, all these folks that are so passionate for the Players to not get larger Stipends have hidden agendas that they are too cowardly to say publicly, so they hide behind the usual hokum of Amateurism or Title-IX and any other weak excuse
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:21 pm to
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Go watch the Movie, "12 Angry Men" and think of me as Henry Fonda

Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14854 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:29 pm to
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UConn just did it. They officially rejoined the Big East on July 1st.


Is the Big East one of the P5 conference?
Posted by bamawriter
Nashville, TN
Member since Apr 2009
3162 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:36 pm to
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Then they would be the first. They also cancelled their football program if I'm not mistaken.



No, they're just going independent.

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Also, did UConn really leave the Big East or did the Big East leave them?



UConn was a long-term member and had the choice to stay in the "new" Big East. They chose the AAC for football.
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:43 pm to
P5 needs to break away right now. What are they waiting for?
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10851 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:18 pm to
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Ok lets see...

BIG 12: Hey Colorado want to rejoin the Big 12 and remain in a Power Conference with the money that comes with as we expand to 16 teams or look for a new home in a group of group of 5 or remain in what's left of the PAC and earn substantially less money?

Colorado: nah we good, its not about the money, we don't like Texas...

Yeah, right...


From what I recall:
Nebraska was courted by the B1G (An educational status symbol that has backfired).
Colorado was appealing to big leftists in California.
The SEC chose Mizzou.
Aggie was the only school butthurt enough about Texas to leave on those grounds.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6283 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:03 pm to
Mizzou settled for the SEC. They wanted in the BIG and would jump at the chance if the opportunity ever arose.


The power 5 should just form their own league and institute a salary cap for incoming recruits. It would make the games more entertaining. If the talent were more evenly distributed ratings would go up.

Its a win for everyone. Players get paid and the under the table slimy dealings go away.


The top level teams only play about 4 or 5 games every year where the other teams even has the players to compete.

Half the season is boring and there are only 4 or 5 good weekends of football in its current form.

Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:18 pm to
It's often better to go with the Devil you know than the one you don't. The p5 and fans may find that out the hard way. As soon as you tear down the old decrepit system a new one will take its place with most of the same problems and some you haven't anticipated. Right now, we know how to navigate that system and it has enough bad PR that it is cowed on most of the things the p5 wants. A new one wouldn't be nearly as toothless nor would it be corruption or bureaucracy free.

And something for the SEC to consider is this -- a TON of the extra football schools are located in the South. If we went to a p5 system we have fewer friends than a unified p5 that hates the success of the SEC.
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