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re: Doctor on why college football should commence. fwiw

Posted on 8/13/20 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 12:20 pm to
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Wait, what? Are you saying the risk of an athlete developing myocarditis from Covid shouldn’t affect our policy on playing?



I'm telling you it's something they can test for and detect before they allow them to practice or play after recovery.

The Big10/Pac12 are full of shite. Players are more likely to die in practice, which they are keeping, than they are in a game.

This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 12:24 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 12:25 pm to
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Are you saying the risk of an athlete developing myocarditis from Covid shouldn’t affect our policy on playing?


Are you saying athletes have never had it pre COVID and it's something new or life threatning in young athletes?

LINK

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Myocarditis often has no symptoms. In fact, most people recover and never even know they had it.
Posted by Jim Sweet
Easley
Member since Oct 2018
1101 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 12:52 pm to
Pacman had a doc on the other night and that guys said this is just more liberal bull shite. said mayocartits or whatever has been around for centrurys and they know what to look for and how to treat.

MORE BULL shite.
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7536 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 12:54 pm to
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Dr. Carlos Del Rio, a chief medical advisor for the NCAA and Emory University professor, likened the possibility of playing football this fall to being on the Titanic. “We have a serious problem. I feel like the Titanic: we have hit the iceberg and we’re trying to make decision on when the band should play,’ Del Rio said

Jesus freakin Christ how dramatic can you get?!
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 12:57 pm to
He makes it sound dire. It also sounds like he isn't pulling any punches. What concerns me, every one of those Dr.s understand what is going on with this virus...........even if the American people haven't been told the entire story.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:08 pm to
It’s not frickin brain surgery; if they get it, they’re going to have zero to mild symptoms, and be back in 14 days. This is all a pile of unadulterated horse crap!
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 3:12 pm
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30837 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:09 pm to
Agree that athletes are insanely low risk.

Not sure how that applies to everyone else though (coaches, staff, fans, etc).
Posted by Hogfan13
Member since Jul 2019
2944 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:12 pm to
The Titanic!

This hasn't come close to meeting the fear-mongering predictions that were shouted from the mountaintops in February, March and April.

This is more like a dinghy that has a small hole in the bottom, so you have to bail it out with an old coffee can every few hours.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64455 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:16 pm to
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Are you saying the risk of an athlete developing myocarditis from Covid shouldn’t affect our policy on playing?


Myocarditis is a risk for pneumonia and the flu. This isn’t some new phenomenon that came with COVID. It’s also something that can be tested for and treated accordingly. So no, it shouldn’t affect policy. No one is advocating for sick people to play. You’re not going to suffer from myocarditis and be asymptomatic
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
7504 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:22 pm to
Kinda like the facemask debate. Science says the facemasks are not effective, politicians say they want them anyway so that they can say they did "something".
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:23 pm to
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Myocarditis is a risk for pneumonia and the flu. This isn’t some new phenomenon that came with COVID.



since we have so many experts on this topic regurgitating the same thing..............

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The disease severity may vary greatly, ranging from asymptomatic or mild flu-like symptoms to cardiogenic shock and sudden death (


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Patients presenting with chest pain with preserved left ventricular (LV) function typically have an excellent prognosis. Conversely, patients presenting with heart failure and/or life-threatening arrhythmias, in particular when associated with severe LV dysfunction, have a greater risk of adverse events during follow-up.



LINK

In other words..........it isn't a cookie cutter medical issue.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3319 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:35 pm to
No?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30179 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:57 pm to
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It doesn't matter what the risk of getting it is, you test everyone who has recovered from it.
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Wait, what? Are you saying the risk of an athlete developing myocarditis from Covid shouldn’t affect our policy on playing?


IF an athlete is tested for Covid, tests positive AND at that time is tested and monitored for myocarditis during his quarantine. Then the athlete recovers, tests negative for covid and is clear on the myocardititis ......Why would that athlete still be at risk if he chooses to play ball?
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30179 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 1:59 pm to
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Pacman had a doc on the other night and that guys said this is just more liberal bull shite. said mayocartits or whatever has been around for centrurys and they know what to look for and how to treat.

MORE BULL shite.
This is exactly why many programs have already tested for it this summer while their athletes were on campus and testing for covid. Alabama can not be the only program that has been testing and monitoring for myocardiotitis.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22466 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 2:08 pm to
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LINK

In other words..........it isn't a cookie cutter medical issue.


But you can test for it and find it. All they have to do is test those who get covid, then not play/practice them.

Should be done regardless of games.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 2:25 pm to
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He doesn't care about the politics of things




He works for the Hoover Institute, not Stanford University(though they are affiliated), and has been a political advisor for several years now. For those that don't know, the Hoover Institute is a conservative think tank.

None of that disqualifies his opinion, but let's not pretend his views have no political bias to them.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 2:37 pm to
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But you can test for it and find it. All they have to do is test those who get covid, then not play/practice them.



but why are they so concerned with it now and not concerned when somebody is getting over the flu? That is my question. There must be a reason.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 2:38 pm to
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but why are they so concerned with it now and not concerned when somebody is getting over the flu? That is my question. There must be a reason.


I can tell you the reason you are going to get
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30179 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 2:44 pm to
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But you can test for it and find it. All they have to do is test those who get covid, then not play/practice them.

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but why are they so concerned with it now and not concerned when somebody is getting over the flu? That is my question. There must be a reason.

A lot of programs have always tested for this as part of an athlete's annual physical. I know Alabama and in another thread it was stated that LSU has done it for many years. Athletes are screened, and if anything abnormal shows up it's straight to the EKG and on to more intensive tests.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14854 posts
Posted on 8/13/20 at 2:47 pm to
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so it seems even medical experts are not on the same page. I just wonder how many of these Dr.s have actually studied the virus?


How many of you had to get second and third opinions because the situation was not solved?
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