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re: Divisional Runner-ups?

Posted on 6/11/21 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 2:06 pm to
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If you've been paying attention, you'd notice that there are areas of the country where interest is down, because they're getting squeezed out of the playoffs.

No one has been squeezed out of the CFP, you're either good enough or you're not
No, that's just not accurate.

First off, there are 5 power conferences and 4 playoff spots. That always leaves the potential, however unlikely, that an undefeated P5 champ could get left out.
Remember 2004? Only 2 spots in the BCS. You had USC, Texas, and Auburn all undefeated. Auburn is squeezed out, and the best rationale is that USC beat them in 2003. Which still doesn't really make sense.

Now, if you want to say "good enough" means "undefeated season", that's one thing. But a lot of 1-loss teams have won titles, sometimes beating undefeated teams in those games.
If you are saying "good enough" means "able to win on the field", that's something else. There have always been teams that lost a couple in the regular season, that are fully capable of winning rematches, and making runs.
You look at years where LSU/Alabama/Auburn/Florida/Georgia ground through the SEC schedule, every matchup was a tossup until late, somebody emerged with the best record, and somebody got 2-3 losses. But each of those teams would have a good chance to advance in a 12 team playoff, and scare the shite out of a favorite even if they lost.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 2:26 pm to
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If you've been paying attention, you'd notice that there are areas of the country where interest is down, because they're getting squeezed out of the playoffs.


So what? It's still the same process, it's still the same committee.

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Once the ACC landed Notre Dame, they basically locked up a spot,, to join the SEC and Big 10. That leaves one spot, Oklahoma's Big 12 spot. There's no room for the Pac 12, unless Oklahoma collapses and rest of the Big 12 is down.


Want to know how the rest of us know you haven't been paying attention?
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 2:27 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 2:27 pm to
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Once the ACC landed Notre Dame, they basically locked up a spot, to join the SEC and Big 10. That leaves one spot, Oklahoma's Big 12 spot. There's no room for the Pac 12, unless Oklahoma collapses and rest of the Big 12 is down.

What?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 2:28 pm to
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Once the ACC landed Notre Dame, they basically locked up a spot, to join the SEC and Big 10. That leaves one spot, Oklahoma's Big 12 spot. There's no room for the Pac 12, unless Oklahoma collapses and rest of the Big 12 is down.
What?


Exactly. Dumbass says I'm not paying attention, and he doesn't even know that ND has reverted back to being independent.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13312 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 2:40 pm to
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12 spots:
SEC- 3 (Bama, plus 2 of LSU, Auburn, UGA, A&M, Florida).
Big 10- 3 (Ohio State, plus 2 of Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan, someone)
Big 12- 2 (Oklahoma, plus 1 of Baylor, TCU, Texas)
ACC- 2 (Clemson and Notre Dame for the foreseeable future)
Pac 12- 1, whoever wins.
That leaves one spot for Cinderella.



That's not the way I heard it. Conference champions for the P5, plus the highest ranked G5 conference champion. That leaves 6 spots for the rest. I may not have heard the proposal correctly though.
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
4653 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 2:40 pm to
Serious question and one I won’t have to worry about but

Would Arkansas have gotten in in 2010 or 2011? Thinking they may have gotten in both years but don’t understand this new format
Posted by johnzorback
Member since Apr 2012
4122 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 2:44 pm to
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Would

There are plenty of universes where they did. Right now we got that wood.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20296 posts
Posted on 6/12/21 at 12:56 am to
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12 spots:
SEC- 3 (Bama, plus 2 of LSU, Auburn, UGA, A&M, Florida).
Big 10- 3 (Ohio State, plus 2 of Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan, someone)
Big 12- 2 (Oklahoma, plus 1 of Baylor, TCU, Texas)
ACC- 2 (Clemson and Notre Dame for the foreseeable future)
Pac 12- 1, whoever wins.
That leaves one spot for Cinderella.



That's not the way I heard it. Conference champions for the P5, plus the highest ranked G5 conference champion. That leaves 6 spots for the rest. I may not have heard the proposal correctly though.

I didn't read the whole thing in detail- sorry, this past year has definitely had an effect on my patience. I'm both more irritable, and more distracted.

Pretty sure we're all in that boat

Just speculating, that's probably the way things will get voted/ranked. You know whatever means they pick the teams, it will be a national group, wanting "national representation". If the last team comes down to being a 4th SEC team vs a 3rd Big 10 team, you know there will be games behind the scenes.
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