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Divisional Runner-ups?
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:23 am
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:23 am
Do they make the Playoffs over the Divison Champs under the 12 team system? I can not see that happening and would prevent mulligans in the future. I think that will be good for CF.
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Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:45 am to Irons Puppet
Not quite understanding...
are you saying 2011 Alabama gets in INSTEAD OF 2011 LSU? No, that wouldn't be the case; they'd both get in. Having 12 teams would allow that.
Or are you referring to 2017, SEC West? Auburn wins West, but Alabama gets into playoffs with better overall record?
The SEC Championship gets kinda funny. In 2017 you'd see 3 SEC teams likely to make a playoff, but Auburn losing in Atlanta hurts them (and the league).
But 2001, I don't see LSU making it until they win in Atlanta, and it wouldn't hurt Tennessee. Goes from 1 to 2.
are you saying 2011 Alabama gets in INSTEAD OF 2011 LSU? No, that wouldn't be the case; they'd both get in. Having 12 teams would allow that.
Or are you referring to 2017, SEC West? Auburn wins West, but Alabama gets into playoffs with better overall record?
The SEC Championship gets kinda funny. In 2017 you'd see 3 SEC teams likely to make a playoff, but Auburn losing in Atlanta hurts them (and the league).
But 2001, I don't see LSU making it until they win in Atlanta, and it wouldn't hurt Tennessee. Goes from 1 to 2.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 9:45 am to Irons Puppet
Alabama and Texas A&M would have made the 12 team playoff last year, as would have Florida and Georgia.
In the SEC division champs and runner ups would both make it.
In the SEC division champs and runner ups would both make it.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:20 am to Scoob
No , I am asking if the loser of the SECG gets left out over a non-divisional winner.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 10:59 am to Irons Puppet
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I am asking if the loser of the SECG gets left out over a non-divisional winner.
Yep. A three loss Auburn who lost the SECCG to undefeated UGA will sit at home and East runner up 1 loss Florida is going to go.
This is an incredibly fricking stupid question. There have been division winners with 5 losses in other conferences.
Division champs doesn't mean shite unless you're Ole Miss and want to hang banners for it.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:02 am to Irons Puppet
quote:Ok
No , I am asking if the loser of the SECG gets left out over a non-divisional winner.
It's a good reason to consider dropping the SEC Championship game.
Yes- Alabama does make it in 2011 and 2017. 11-1 team.
2011 LSU and 2017 UGA are in, regardless. 2011 Arkansas is probably in, too.
2011 UGA and 2017 Auburn would likely be in, if there were no SEC Championship game to play. If they win, definitely in; but if they lose they're out.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:05 am to Irons Puppet
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Do they make the Playoffs over the Divison Champs under the 12 team system? I can not see that happening and would prevent mulligans in the future. I think that will be good for CF.
You do realize that the same committee will be ranking the teams just as they always have, right? Or have you not been paying attention at all?
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:06 am to Scoob
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It's a good reason to consider dropping the SEC Championship game.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:20 am to Scoob
Short version, I think the SEC has enough credibility and clout, that 10-2 gets you in. I think 3 losses gets you kicked to the curb.
The problem is, it's a national committee, and will want to balance the bracket with other conferences. We're not going to see 5 SEC teams and just 1 Big 10; just won't happen.
12 spots:
SEC- 3 (Bama, plus 2 of LSU, Auburn, UGA, A&M, Florida).
Big 10- 3 (Ohio State, plus 2 of Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan, someone)
Big 12- 2 (Oklahoma, plus 1 of Baylor, TCU, Texas)
ACC- 2 (Clemson and Notre Dame for the foreseeable future)
Pac 12- 1, whoever wins.
That leaves one spot for Cinderella.
The problem is, it's a national committee, and will want to balance the bracket with other conferences. We're not going to see 5 SEC teams and just 1 Big 10; just won't happen.
12 spots:
SEC- 3 (Bama, plus 2 of LSU, Auburn, UGA, A&M, Florida).
Big 10- 3 (Ohio State, plus 2 of Wisconsin, Penn State, Michigan, someone)
Big 12- 2 (Oklahoma, plus 1 of Baylor, TCU, Texas)
ACC- 2 (Clemson and Notre Dame for the foreseeable future)
Pac 12- 1, whoever wins.
That leaves one spot for Cinderella.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:50 am to BamaGradinTn
quote:If you've been paying attention, you'd notice that there are areas of the country where interest is down, because they're getting squeezed out of the playoffs.
You do realize that the same committee will be ranking the teams just as they always have, right? Or have you not been paying attention at all?
Once the ACC landed Notre Dame, they basically locked up a spot, to join the SEC and Big 10. That leaves one spot, Oklahoma's Big 12 spot. There's no room for the Pac 12, unless Oklahoma collapses and rest of the Big 12 is down.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:55 am to Evolved Simian
quote:Well if you're Auburn you hang banners for that shite too. Remember the fat chick on the ladder hanging the banner in Auburn's athletic facility a few yrs ago?
Division champs doesn't mean shite unless you're Ole Miss and want to hang banners for it.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 11:57 am to Scoob
quote:No one has been squeezed out of the CFP, you're either good enough or you're not
If you've been paying attention, you'd notice that there are areas of the country where interest is down, because they're getting squeezed out of the playoffs.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 12:00 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Auburn goes 11-1 in the SEC but loses the division....you don't think your team deserves a place in the 12 team playoff?
Do they make the Playoffs over the Divison Champs under the 12 team system? I can not see that happening and would prevent mulligans in the future. I think that will be good for CF.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 12:08 pm to RT1941
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Well if you're Auburn you hang banners for that shite too. Remember the fat chick on the ladder hanging the banner in Auburn's athletic facility a few yrs ago?
Posted on 6/11/21 at 12:26 pm to Evolved Simian
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Division champs doesn't mean shite unless you're Ole Miss and want to hang banners for it.
Only a few dumb fricking bammers can not understand the concept of winning a division and how it would relate to playoffs. Tell me another sport where a division champion is left out of a playoff over a team that was in the same division but didn't win it. Don't think too hard, your little head will explode.
Those 5 lose divisional winners did have another team in their division make the playoff. What a DA example, but totally expected as your argument.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 1:02 pm to RT1941
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Auburn goes 11-1 in the SEC but loses the division....you don't think your team deserves a place in the 12 team playoff?
Not if the team who wins it doesn't get in the playoffs. Do you ? Tell me another sport where that could happen.
Posted on 6/11/21 at 1:43 pm to Irons Puppet
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Division champs doesn't mean shite unless you're Ole Miss and want to hang banners for it.
quote:The "Family" hangs banners for division champs just like Ole Miss. How many times did you rattle a list of Gus' accomplishments and pencil in the SEC-West Champs?
Irons Puppet
Posted on 6/11/21 at 1:44 pm to Irons Puppet
Beat Bama...24/7
Posted on 6/11/21 at 1:52 pm to RT1941
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Well if you're Auburn you hang banners for that shite too.
Yeah the difference is we've actually won the SEC since the divisions in 1992. Some schools don't have SEC Championship banners to hang. Hell, a couple of schools have never even tied for the division much less won it.
Also we "won" the division in 2017 and represented the West (kind of) in the game that year. Ole Miss was only a co-champ who didn't have the tiebreaker. Not really the same thing. And ours wasn't hanging in the stadium.
This post was edited on 6/11/21 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 6/11/21 at 1:52 pm to RT1941
Nobody said they were not an accomplishment. They were just not CFP worthy. Just like not winning your division. DA Bammers have a missing gene that prevents them from presenting a logical retort. Lol
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