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re: Devonta Smith vs. Stingley

Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by Cd104444
Member since Aug 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:14 pm to
Ehhh has he really declined this year? As I said just now he doesn’t get nearly as many targets this year and he hasn’t been healthy. When teams actually throw his way he makes plays this was proven last week he Texas A&M
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2614 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

Let's talk about Burrow vs whole Bama D...crickets.


Is Burrow going to be playing on Saturday?
Posted by Crimsontide1713
Member since Dec 2019
2614 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:43 pm to
quote:

Ehhh has he really declined this year? As I said just now he doesn’t get nearly as many targets this year and he hasn’t been healthy. When teams actually throw his way he makes plays this was proven last week he Texas A&M


Yes. He has. His PFF grade is much lower, and he just flat out hasn’t been lockdown.

One game against Kellen Mond doesn’t prove anything. He didn’t have an exceptional game either.
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2122 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:47 pm to
Yea was about to point to PFF. But it’s probably due to playing on such a bad team. If I were him I’d seriously consider sitting next year.
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3179 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:48 pm to
He had better players around him on defense last year which made him better. It's tough when a true sophomore is your best defensive player.
Posted by Cd104444
Member since Aug 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:51 pm to
PFF is not an end all be all first off. Second off PFF rates corners higher that get more targets and get opportunities to make plays on the ball stingley flat out doesn’t get nearly as much targets as he did last year I don’t get why your not taking that into account
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2122 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:04 pm to
Stingley has played Auburn, Missouri, Arkansas, A&M, Vanderbilt, and SC...

Best receiver he’s faced? Seth Williams? I can barely even name a wr from those teams.

He should of been dominant with the hype he gets
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
6753 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:09 pm to
Okay okay Derek Stingley Sr, we get it...your son is great. Now go to sleep already.
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
2917 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:11 pm to
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Devonta Smith vs. Stingley


Objectivity.

He got “torched” per sidewalk OP. On two plays where he wasn’t set, and one in garbage time.



This is one of the dumber things I have read lately.

1. If you are on the field, and have been on the field, and are such an integral part of the defense... there's no such thing as being able to claim "oops, I wasn't set". The official sets the ball. The offense snaps the ball. The defense goes and defends. This is not rocket surgery.

2. Garbage time? The game wasn't decided until the final minute when the LSU RB made the first down so the clock could be run out. LSU might have had a lot of garbage time in games last year... but it wasn't against Alabama.

3. And frankly, it's not "garbage time" unless you have your 2nd/3rd/4th string in. Stingley wasn't any of those.

The bottom line is that Smith consistently won individual matchups against Stingley. It's OK, it's just part of the game. LSU won a LOT of other head to head matchups and thus won the game. LSU won the game fair and square, we couldn't stop Burrow when it counted. That's objectivity. Stingley got torched by Smith. That's objective also. It is what it is.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
16757 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:11 pm to
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Cd104444


Posted by Cd104444
Member since Aug 2019
1084 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:16 pm to
So basically your saying even if he gets little targets he should still be dominant? How is that possible when he isn’t getting Thrown the ball lmao
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2122 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:20 pm to
I’m saying he should grade out better than an average corner does when playing inferior competition.

And it’s not solely because they don’t throw him the ball. That’s bs.
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 11:21 pm
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:19 am to
Smith will make Stringley his bitch again.
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2458 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 6:29 am to
It was our best defensive performance of the year. Have you watched our defense? If it was your team you would be bragging as well after this shite show of a season lol!!!
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2458 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 6:30 am to
All the yards were on 2 plays. A designed trick play, and a hail mary. That was it, he wasn't destroyed he got tricked because was a freshman.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27018 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:03 am to
He didnt get "destroyed"

It wasn't bad until the last 80 yarder. The first one wasn't on him

Then he beat him on a slant and crossing route
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
18119 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:37 am to
Watch the link of Smith and Sting. He was beat all night. He couldn't keep up with Smith.

One the 85 yard bomb lsu was still playing their regular defense. They weren't playing prevent etc. Sting was playing bump on Smith and Smith literally went right by him.

I'm not one of those guys that thinks Sting is bad. He's been injured this year and probably still is. However you just cant take those plays away.
Posted by rtr12
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2019
783 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:53 am to
Look man, I think stingley is a good player but he just got worked that game. Devonta did whatever he wanted to against him and it’s more than just those plays. Go watch the highlights, he got torched every pass thrown his way. That’s not good if your a CB. If you think otherwise, then I am not sure what to tell you bud lol
Posted by rtr12
Birmingham
Member since Oct 2019
783 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:55 am to
It was more than those two plays. Every pass thrown at stingley to smith was caught. That means he caught every pass thrown to him. Does that sound good to you if you are a CB? Not sure why LSU fans keep trying to take away those two plays lmao. Stingley was guarding him and got toasted on both
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 7:56 am
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2122 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 8:06 am to
That’s a lot of bargaining my friend.

You could also go the other way and look at all the missed opportunities where Smith had Stingley beat but Tua missed him.
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