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Dennis Dodd: Will there ever be another Ed Orgeron? Ole Miss' Lane Kiffin might
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:32 pm
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Orgeron got a second chance at coaching in the SEC, and that does not happen often
Trying to find the "next" Ed Orgeron is just as impossible of a task. The coach's accomplishments in 2019 were so incredible, so unique, it's hard to come up with someone to match them.
There's only a couple that come to mind but certainly one who sticks out: Lane Kiffin.
OK, it might be a stretch, but squint a little. Kiffin is not an exact replica of Orgeron, but the path is close enough.
Would you be absolutely shocked if Kiffin gets the Rebels back in championship contention? Hugh Freeze did it (with nefarious methods), but that's part of the reason Kiffin was hired.
Few are predicting Kiffin is going to win a national championship at Ole Miss, mostly because it's Ole Miss. The school claims three national titles (1959, 1960, 1962) awarded by the likes of the Billingsley Report and the Sagarin Ratings. The Rebels haven't won the SEC since 1963.
But few were saying Orgeron was going to win a title at LSU … until he did.
No, the Ed Orgeron story will probably never be duplicated.
Unless Lane Kiffin is running the copying machine.
Will there ever be another Ed Orgeron? Ole Miss' Lane Kiffin might be the closest facsimile
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:34 pm to paperwasp
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Few are predicting Kiffin is going to win a national championship at Ole Miss, mostly because it's Ole Miss. The school claims three national titles (1959, 1960, 1962) awarded by the likes of the Billingsley Report and the Sagarin Ratings. The Rebels haven't won the SEC since 1963.
But few were saying Orgeron was going to win a title at LSU … until he did.
I'd go out on a limb and say its probably a little easier to win at LSU than Ole Miss.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
The reason LSU is a great job is they are top dog in their own state with a high school talent pool that is strong
It took a coach like Saban to keep that talent and show that it could be done
Miles won a title but he is an avg coach
O knows the culture and state of la and that has been his best atttibute
Before Saban LSU couldn’t get out of its own way
It took that no nonsense kind of coach to elevate LSU
It took a coach like Saban to keep that talent and show that it could be done
Miles won a title but he is an avg coach
O knows the culture and state of la and that has been his best atttibute
Before Saban LSU couldn’t get out of its own way
It took that no nonsense kind of coach to elevate LSU
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:40 pm to SidewalkTiger
Yes, plus Miles left the program in great shape as far as recruiting goes.
Lane is going to have to tear down and rebuild from scratch.
Lane is going to have to tear down and rebuild from scratch.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:42 pm to paperwasp
Except Kiffin will jump as soon as possible
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:43 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Yes, plus Miles left the program in great shape as far as recruiting goes.
That isnt true.
LSU had no real viable quarterback prospects and the talent coming out of LSU at the end of the Miles years took a nosedive vs what it was in 2011ish.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:44 pm to paperwasp
I wanted Lane over Yaw when we fired Miles. I think he’s going to make ole miss an Atlanta team every 3-4 years like Nutt was at Arkansas
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:48 pm to tigerbait2010
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I think he’s going to make ole miss an Atlanta team every 3-4 years
I hope this is a troll Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:50 pm to SidewalkTiger
LSU’s recruiting pool was still way better than Ole Miss’s
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:52 pm to Elleshoe
I think you could bump it to 4-5 years but that’s basically what freeze accomplished there. He was an insane 4th and 25 conversion away and lane probably knows bawll better than freeze. He also has a better staff assembled
Posted on 4/8/20 at 4:53 pm to tigerbait2010
Freeze also got the university in a lot of trouble. I don’t see Lane having enough of a leash to do that.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:15 pm to paperwasp
If Leach self-destructs at State and we can get a majority of MS talent, look out. I would not have predicted that until the latest crap against Leach came out from his own AD (that relationship has to be trash now).
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:15 pm to paperwasp
Lol. I think "will there ever be another Brady/burrow combo" is a better question.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:16 pm to WG_Dawg
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Lol. I think "will there ever be another Brady/burrow combo" is a better question
Good thing LSU didnt need Brady to beat that Dawg arse up and down the field in 2018.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:42 pm to tigerbait2010
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think you could bump it to 4-5 years but that’s basically what freeze accomplished there. He was an insane 4th and 25 conversion away and lane probably knows bawll better than freeze. He also has a better staff assembled
You’re assuming he’ll be able to get the same talent there. I just don’t see it. If Aggy can’t break through to the SECCG in this division no way in hell Ole Miss will
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:43 pm to paperwasp
O literally got fired at Ole Miss did he not? Does Kiffin want to be the next O?
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:44 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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LSU’s recruiting pool was still way better than Ole Miss’s
Yeah...........but LSU is trying to win the SEC, and Miles did not do well along either line.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:48 pm to PlateJohnsonIII
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Yes, plus Miles left the program in great shape as far as recruiting goes.
Not really
OL was pretty thin, Dline depth was nonexistent, and we had more kickers than scholarship LBs at one point.
We were down to walkons at Dline at one point during the infamous Troy loss
Posted on 4/8/20 at 5:52 pm to paperwasp
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Would you be absolutely shocked if Kiffin gets the Rebels back in championship contention?
Lol wat??
Posted on 4/8/20 at 6:11 pm to WG_Dawg
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think "will there ever be another Brady/burrow combo" is a better question.
E could take a nap during the game instead of call plays and we would still beat your overrated asses
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