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Defenseless Player Rule Change
Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:57 am
Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:57 am
I swear, they have been trying to ruin college football for quite a while now. It seems like they're accelerating the demise with this change.
RULE 2-27-14-A Defenseless Player - Passer
ARTICLE 14. A defenseless player is one who because of their physical position and focus of concentration is especially vulnerable to injury. When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:
A.- A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass. This includes a player in a passing posture with focus downfield.
WTF? So, no rushing & hitting the QB if he's focused downfield or pump faking?
This undoubtedly will have dramatic effect on some key plays this year. 3rd and 14, sack the QB? Wrong. Personal foul, automatic first down.
RULE 2-27-14-A Defenseless Player - Passer
ARTICLE 14. A defenseless player is one who because of their physical position and focus of concentration is especially vulnerable to injury. When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to:
A.- A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass. This includes a player in a passing posture with focus downfield.
WTF? So, no rushing & hitting the QB if he's focused downfield or pump faking?
This undoubtedly will have dramatic effect on some key plays this year. 3rd and 14, sack the QB? Wrong. Personal foul, automatic first down.
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Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:57 am to slacker130
So at this point you just can’t hit the QB at all?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 8:58 am to slacker130
TBH, if you want football to stick around for a long time, you should embrace rule changes like this. CTE is no joke, and the more research that is done, the worse that football in its current form looks.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:00 am to Fancy Boots
So, let’s hang flags around everyone and implement a no touching rule… this is football, if you don’t want to get hit don’t play
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:01 am to slacker130
Hell, I’d just drop back and strike the pose. 15 yards per -
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:01 am to Fancy Boots
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TBH, if you want football to stick around for a long time, you should embrace rule changes like this.
Typical longhorn attitude. Y’all soft.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:02 am to slacker130
If that's the case QBs should be down by 2 hand touch whenever they are in this "defenseless" posture.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:04 am to tgrmeat
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If that's the case QBs should be down by 2 hand touch whenever they are in this "defenseless" posture.
I guess, a defender must have to tap the QB on the shoulder and let him know that he intends to tackle him.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:05 am to bogeypro
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Typical longhorn attitude. Y’all soft.
Have you seen the stats on kids playing football? It has dropped drastically. Parents don't want their kids playing football in its current form. The game needs to evolve if you want it to stick around.
I bet people like you would have complained when they introduced shoulder pads and helmets with face masks.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:07 am to DCTXLA
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So at this point you just can’t hit the QB at all?
Not in the head or neck area. There's nothing about not being able to hit a defenseless player at all unless that's been changed too.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:07 am to Fancy Boots
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Parents don't want their kids playing football in its current form. The game needs to evolve if you want it to stick around.
quote:checks out
Fancy Boots
Texas Fan
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:08 am to slacker130
I guess I'd like to know the practical difference in targeting calls will be. Seems like a pretty vague addition and really can't figure what can't you do now what you could do before.
Isn't "defenseless player" a definition made up for targeting rules and it still applies to hitting in the head neck area or using the crown of the helmet? Didn't they already pretty much treat QBs that are not running as defenseless in the first place? What's the difference now? Seems like you can still hit them below the neck area without the crown.
Isn't "defenseless player" a definition made up for targeting rules and it still applies to hitting in the head neck area or using the crown of the helmet? Didn't they already pretty much treat QBs that are not running as defenseless in the first place? What's the difference now? Seems like you can still hit them below the neck area without the crown.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 9:10 am
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:08 am to Fancy Boots
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I bet people like you would have complained when they introduced shoulder pads and helmets with face masks.
Helmets are part of the issue
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 9:55 am
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:10 am to Fancy Boots
Texas fans, seeing this with Will Anderson looming around the corner:
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:12 am to TigerLunatik
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Not in the head or neck area. There's nothing about not being able to hit a defenseless player at all unless that's been changed too.
I think the big thing is that if a QB is drawing back to pass it wasn't uncommon to after the ball; if the arm isn't moving forward yet it's a fumble and if it is then you've disrupted the pass. Now players are going to try and avoid it because it's right next to their head.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:13 am to Fancy Boots
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Fancy Boots
You're boots seem a little too "Fancy" if you know what I mean.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:19 am to TigerLunatik
I get what you’re saying but I feel like this is going to be poorly applied by officials.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:23 am to lockthevaught
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You're boots seem a little too "Fancy" if you know what I mean.
You really do have a childish sense of humor.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:23 am to PeleofAnalytics
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I guess I'd like to know the practical difference in targeting calls will be. Seems like a pretty vague addition and really can't figure what can't you do now what you could do before. Isn't "defenseless player" a definition made up for targeting rules and it still applies to hitting in the head neck area or using the crown of the helmet? Didn't they already pretty much treat QBs that are not running as defenseless in the first place? What's the difference now? Seems like you can still hit them below the neck area without the crown.
This was my assessment too. The “sacks are now penalties” line that everybody’s saying when they read this would be way bigger news if it was the actual interpretation. I think this is just clarification that if there’s a targeting call in question, yes it applies to the quarterback in the pocket. All the other qualifications of targeting have to apply first.
At least that’s my interpretation.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:25 am to slacker130
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WTF? So, no rushing & hitting the QB if he's focused downfield or pump faking?
What you've done is paste part of the definition of what a defenseless player is... not what is allowed to be done to a defenseless player.
What is not allowed against a defenseless player is "un-necessary or prohibited contact". That's what will result in a penalty.
If a QB still has the ball in his hand, a tackle is not "unnecessary" thus allowed. But you better not get there late. The reality is for pass rushes defenders need to tackle the QB rather than hit them or they're going to be in danger of a flag.
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