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re: DeAndre Baker "had" a 4 year $10.5 million dollar contract.

Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:30 am to
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:30 am to
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Remember this guy

Well, I guess you're right.
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:31 am to
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Cobb Dawg summed it up best imo

His thread was whacked. Did he get banned too?
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:37 am to
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I know it's not armed robbery but that was an incredibly stupid thing to do.

Posted by BearBait09
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:51 am to
It's unclear to me how you can consider your story comparable to OP.

beyond the "the guy lost his job" angle, being a filch in a cafeteria cannot possibly compare to threatening the lives of others with firearms and demanding they be stripped of valuables.

Now if your guy had threatened to gouge out the cashier's eye with a spork I could let it slide.
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 11:53 am
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:54 am to
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Without arguing the stupidity of what they did do, this clearly wasn't "armed robbery" in layman's terms. they didnt bust into a house or 7 11 and hold up the cashier at gunpoint.


wut?

They robbed people with a gun, that is armed robbery.

What you are talking about is breaking and entering.
Posted by BearBait09
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:55 am to
do you even know what the phrase "layman's terms" means?
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:56 am to
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this clearly wasn't "armed robbery" in layman's terms. they didnt bust into a house or 7 11 and hold up the cashier at gunpoint.

Uh what? They robbed a bunch of people of jewelry and cash at gunpoint.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:56 am to
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do you even know what the phrase "layman's terms" means?

Do you?
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 11:59 am to
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do you even know what the phrase "layman's terms" means?



Are you asking me to add it to the list of words you don't know what means?

Because Armed Robbery and Breaking and Entering are pretty straight forward to begin with. Doesn't require a lawyer to understand them, any "layman" should be able to understand it.

Posted by DawgFanDave
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:03 pm to
Local radio is saying he ordered a hit too. Oh well.
Posted by BearBait09
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:06 pm to
christ. let me spell it out for you. the point I am making is that while "armed robbery" is legally accurate, the verbiage as a descriptor for this event is imperfect because it is inspires an inaccurate imagining by the typical uninformed reader (tell me uninformed reader is not applicable to the rant, I dare you.)

The typical context described as an armed robbery is an incident of abrupt theft without provocation or familiarity between the criminal and the victim. such as a bank teller or gas station cashier being compelled to empty their register drawer.

This isnt that. That is the point I was making.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:11 pm to
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christ. let me spell it out for you. the point I am making is that while "armed robbery" is legally accurate, the verbiage as a descriptor for this event is imperfect because it is inspires an inaccurate imagining by the typical uninformed reader (tell me uninformed reader is not applicable to the rant, I dare you.)

The typical context described as an armed robbery is an incident of abrupt theft without provocation or familiarity between the criminal and the victim. such as a bank teller or gas station cashier being compelled to empty their register drawer.

This isnt that. That is the point I was making.


Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:13 pm to
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The typical context described as an armed robbery is an incident of abrupt theft without provocation or familiarity between the criminal and the victim. such as a bank teller or gas station cashier being compelled to empty their register drawer.

I don't agree that most people assume this is what happened when someone is charged with armed robbery
Posted by BearBait09
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:13 pm to
solid retort. very compelling.
Posted by BearBait09
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:15 pm to
I never expected you would seeing as doing so would concede my point and expose your disdain as ignorance.
Posted by FredBear
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:17 pm to
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It's unclear to me how you can consider your story comparable to OP.

beyond the "the guy lost his job" angle, being a filch in a cafeteria cannot possibly compare to threatening the lives of others with firearms and demanding they be stripped of valuables.

Now if your guy had threatened to gouge out the cashier's eye with a spork I could let it slide.



The only correlation is that he did something dumb for a relatively small amount of money when he had so much money guaranteed to be coming in. Obviously it doesn't compare as far as the violent nature of what Baker and the other guy did
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:18 pm to
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I never expected you would seeing as doing so would concede my point and expose your disdain as ignorance.



Bud, I'm an attorney. This is textbook armed robbery, even in "layman's terms"
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:21 pm to
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solid retort. very compelling.


Well when the person on the other end is someone who thinks his misconceptions about words is the norm, and then thinks it's everyone else that needs the clarification, there isn't much else to say really.

This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 12:22 pm
Posted by BearBait09
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:23 pm to
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I'm an attorney
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This is textbook
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"layman's terms"


boy do you not understand the concept of layman's terms.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 5/15/20 at 12:23 pm to
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boy do you not understand the concept of layman's terms.

I really don't think you do. I think you're just projecting your own preconceived notions about the crime onto everyone else.
This post was edited on 5/15/20 at 12:25 pm
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