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Dak, SEC's best QB in the NFL, credits MSU

Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:25 am
Posted by StopRobot
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:25 am
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:27 am to
I picked him up late in our draft and he has been solid. Everyone said "Wait til Romo comes back." lulz
Posted by Kafkas father
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:33 am to
It really shows how good a player he is, and helps to illustrate how offenses like MSU, Ole Miss, and Auburn rely on really good QB play to be successful.

Without it, things just go to shite.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:44 am to
Why aren't MSU fans crazy annoying bitchy Dallas fans like pesky Camthers?
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 8:51 am to
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Why aren't MSU fans crazy annoying bitchy Dallas fans like pesky Camthers?


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Member since Nov 2010



I wonder....
Posted by AU4real35
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:04 am to
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Camthers


Keep melting!
Posted by catfish 62
Atlanta
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:10 am to
Staff Daddy been way better this year.
Posted by skirpnasty
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:23 am to
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It really shows how good a player he is, and helps to illustrate how offenses like MSU, Ole Miss, and Auburn rely on really good QB play to be successful.



So these 3 are not the same.

- State is a balanced attack team, in 2014 we had almost exactly a 50/50 spread of run/pass plays. We actually run a pretty slow offense, think we are generally like 30-50th in play per game rank.

- OM is a pass first, fast paced, quick strike system. Top 15-30 in plays per game.

- Gus passes to open up the run but above all keeps it simple and highlights the strength of his teams. They typically rank like 60-80thbin plays per game IIRC.

State actually runs a really complex system, which is what Dak has credited his smooth transition to. Apparently his senior year he was making 5 WR reads and had like 21 OL blocking schemes he could check them into. But you're right that it takes a good QB to make it work to its max potential, luckily Mullen seems to be pretty solid at coaching them up.


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Why aren't MSU fans crazy annoying bitchy Dallas fans like pesky Camthers?


I hate how much I've enjoyed watching Dallas play this year.
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 9:31 am
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:29 am to
0-2 against Eli this year?

The same Eli with 2 rings?

Let the kid win something before homerishly calling him the best.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:31 am to
So what, you guys are saying Dak is better than Stafford?

Dak landed in about the best situation, as Dallas has one of the best Olines. He has played well for a rookie although his passing stats aren't that great other than his TD:INT. I think we will falter in the playoffs and show his true colors as a rookie (although he hasn't played that well in his recent games).

Put Stafford on Dallas and he puts up way better numbers.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:35 am to
Well now I don't feel so bad losing to MSU four years in a row.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:36 am to
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So what, you guys are saying Dak is better than Stafford?


I never said that. OP is clever, this is a troll post and it targets about 3 fan bases.

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Dak landed in about the best situation, as Dallas has one of the best Olines.


No doubt. But I question how they would look without him, last year they were shite.


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He has played well for a rookie although his passing stats aren't that great other than his TD:INT.


His stats are amazing, especially for a rookie. Do some research about how he stacks up against other QB's in their first year.

Through first 14 starts:
Dak: 292 of 431, 3,418 yards, 20 TD - 4 INT, 103.2 QBR.
Brady: 259 of 403, 2,797 yards, 18 TD - 12 INT, 87.0 QBR.


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I think we will falter in the playoffs and show his true colors as a rookie (although he hasn't played that well in his recent games).


He went 32/36 last week for the 2nd highest completion % in NFL history.
This post was edited on 12/23/16 at 9:41 am
Posted by BattinRouge11
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:37 am to
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0-2 against Eli


Stafford also better
Posted by rec207
Starkville, MS
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:39 am to
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Put Stafford on Dallas and he puts up way better numbers.


No.

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I think we will falter in the playoffs and show his true colors as a rookie (although he hasn't played that well in his recent games).


How many times have you said that he would eventually regress this season? Yeah 88% completion percentage against one of the best defenses in the league is HORRIBLE.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:47 am to
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So these 3 are not the same.


No they are not, but it doesn't make the point of his statement incorrect

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It really shows how good a player he is, and helps to illustrate how offenses like MSU, Ole Miss, and Auburn rely on really good QB play to be successful.


He didn't say they all run the same offense.

Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 9:53 am to
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t really shows how good a player he is, and helps to illustrate how offenses like MSU, Ole Miss, and Auburn rely on really good QB play to be successful.

Without it, things just go to shite.
Dude, shut the frick up with your bullshite. Not every team has elite defenses that can mask poor Qb play like Bama
Posted by Kafkas father
Member since Aug 2016
1124 posts
Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:07 am to
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So these 3 are not the same.

- State is a balanced attack team, in 2014 we had almost exactly a 50/50 spread of run/pass plays. We actually run a pretty slow offense, think we are generally like 80's in play per game rank.

- OM is a pass first, fast paced, quick strike system. Top 15-30 in plays per game.

- Gus passes to open up the run but above all keeps it simple and highlights the strength of his teams. They typically rank like 60th in plays per game IIRC.

State actually runs a really complex system, which is what Dak has credited his smooth transition to. Apparently his senior year he was making 5 WR reads and had like 21 OL blocking schemes he could check them into. But you're right that it takes a good QB to make it work to its max potential, luckily Mullen seems to be pretty solid at coaching them up.



I didn't say they were the same, just VERY reliant on great QB play...specifically running for MSU.

A good example is Dak's stat line from last year's game against Bama...
Dak Prescott 26 rushs 14 yards 0.5 per 0 td 17 long

He passed for 300 on 22/43 attemps. MSU ran 88 offensive plays to Bamas 55.

The score was 31-6...well why is that? Because the QB or anyone else for that matter couldn't run the ball.

Another example is LSU last year...

Again Dak goes rushes for nothing and passes for 335. 80+ plays to LSU 51.
21-19 LSU

Bottom line is MSU needs a QB that can run to win.

BTW looking at the Ole Miss game MSU ran 79 plays to OM 67 in another loss.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:31 am to
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So what, you guys are saying Dak is better than Stafford?


Everyone is better than Stafford. Dude was born with ungodly talent and it was matched to a ten cent brain and a loser spirit.

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Put Stafford on Dallas and he puts up way better numbers.


Yeah, he'd have great numbers for his personal stats, but nothing else. Dude is not a winner.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:43 am to
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Why aren't MSU fans crazy annoying bitchy Dallas fans like pesky Camthers?


Camthers are a freaking cult.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/23/16 at 10:49 am to
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helps to illustrate how offenses like MSU, Ole Miss, and Auburn rely on really good QB play to be successful.


Wow I never thought of it like that before. Who knew teams needed really good QB play to run a good offense?
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