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re: Cuonzo Martin is the dumbest coach in America

Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:01 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:01 pm to
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not doxing myself and I played out my career and graduated with a degree at a single school



Doxing ? "there are over 1,300 4-year colleges with basketball teams at the NCAA D1, D2, D3 and NAIA levels."

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I would have pressed and tapped aggressively in the backcourt and lived with a foul. I would have fouled once the ball was in the front court. Your imagination that only KD touches the ball, that kd would make both free throws, that there was only time for one more shot is all fantasy and a desperate attempt by you to avoid your ignorance by assuming results instead of possibilities



So after the Missouri team hit 3 pointer to get within one point and AU throws the ball in quickly to the ball into KD, you would have recovered to trap in backcourt ? Pretty impressive without a time out. I do not think anyone besides KD touches the ball or cuts him off moving the ball up court. KD shot 80% from the FT tonight and had hit 4 in a row. I do not have a problem fouling while playing aggressive D, but posters on here wanted an intentional foul after the throw in. Like I said, how close was Kessler to getting called on the rebound? How would have that played out. When you have the clock and are only down by one, intentional fouls are not in the vocabulary. Your attempt to show how it should have been coached shows how you avoided the response about fouling immediately (like most on here wanted) or just ignorance to the probabilities.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:03 pm to
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Quit being a dumb contrarian. Nobody agrees with you, but you carry on anyway just to be different and difficult. You're wrong, and Martin was wrong.

And, no, Auburn, after making both free throws, would not be fouling with 25 seconds left to avoid the 3 attempt. That would be stupid, too. You only foul in that situation with less than 10 left seconds or so.

Jeez, why do we have to explain all this to you?



Not with 25 seconds, but with less than 10. Plus they would only have to defend the three against a team that shot 29% from the three.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111485 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:05 pm to
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Pretty impressive without a time out.


They should have set up the defense for multiple situations in the time out they just took at the 0:42 second mark when they hit the three.

Did you even watch the game?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:13 pm to
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They should have set up the defense for multiple situations in the time out they just took at the 0:42 second mark when they hit the three.

Did you even watch the game?



I watched it. I also saw where the Offense was when they hit the three. It would have been hard to set up a press once AU threw the ball in quickly. Once KD got the ball, he didn't try to push the ball up the court because Missouri had fallen back. But I have no doubt he could have broken the press based on where they were on the floor after the three. Once he got it past midcourt, they didn't want to foul him and give AU a three point lead. I am a little surprised they didn't try and trap him past midcourt, but they hadn't stopped him all night dribbling.
Posted by DuckTalesLOL
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2018
6054 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:18 pm to
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I watched it. I also saw where the Offense was when they hit the three. It would have been hard to set up a press once AU threw the ball in quickly. Once KD got the ball, he didn't try to push the ball up the court because Missouri had fallen back. But I have no doubt he could have broken the press based on where they were on the floor after the three. Once he got it past midcourt, they didn't want to foul him and give AU a three point lead. I am a little surprised they didn't try and trap him past midcourt, but they hadn't stopped him all night dribbling.


It's obvious you don't watch basketball. It's okay.


Either you're a basketball savant who knows everything, or everyone else is wrong.


It's the latter. You're dumb.

Having the ball with 30 seconds is 10000% better than having the ball with 4 seconds and no timeouts, hoping for a uncontested rebound.

Literally no one agrees with you for a reason.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111485 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:21 pm to
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but they hadn't stopped him all night dribbling.


You’re getting warmer.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:23 pm to
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Having the ball with 30 second


And down three because of an intentional foul ? Verses playing Defense and getting a tUrnover only being down one?

Real smart.
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Literally no one agrees with you for a reason.



Haven't heard any of the talking heads question the play year, so I guess Martin just gets a free pass.
:rotflmao:
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:28 pm to
Even the Missouri experts agree:

LINK
Posted by DuckTalesLOL
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2018
6054 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:41 pm to
Sweet, you found one guy with 300 followers on Twitter to agree with you.

Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:56 pm to
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Sweet, you found one guy with 300 followers on Twitter to agree with you.





And you found 30 idiots on SEC Rant to agree with you.
Posted by iconucon
St. Louis
Member since Jan 2018
1174 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:00 am to
And only one guy out of dozens commenting it on the Mizzou Talk forum I follow agree with not fouling. Martin coached a brilliant scheme to hold Auburn to 55 points only to prevent his team from having a much better chance of winning in the final 35 seconds. His team deserved better after fighting so hard in the first 39:25 of the game.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15163 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:05 am to
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...an Arkansas fan making a thread about basketball tactics. GTFO. You guys don't know shite.

The frick is that supposed to mean? Arkansas is part of the SEC's Big 3 in basketball, nitwit. We know the game well.

God why are all Mizzou fans such whiny lil bitches?
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
16956 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:06 am to
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What a dumbass comment. You are down one and the ball wasn't leaving KDs hand. KD is one of the best FT shooters in the SEC. If Missouri shots the three well you might think about it, but Missouri played it like 99% of the coaches would have.
You're an idiot. Stick to football dumbass.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:23 am to
Still butthurt over Saturday I see. Lol
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:26 am to
The problem is no one is saying when to foul. Most suggested fouling with 30 seconds left behind by one point. Which is totally fricked up.
Posted by DuckTalesLOL
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2018
6054 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:32 am to
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The problem is no one is saying when to foul. Most suggested fouling with 30 seconds left behind by one point. Which is totally fricked up.


What's the difference if you foul at 30 seconds or 15 seconds? You're still getting the ball back with enough time to inbound it and run a play.

If you get the ball back with 4 seconds, you can't do any of that. You literally fight for the rebound, then rush to halfcourt with 1 second left and heave it.

You are wrong. Everyone else is right. Time to move on.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:36 am to
Because you have a chance for a turnover . Damn there are some dumb MFs on here.
This post was edited on 1/26/22 at 12:41 am
Posted by DuckTalesLOL
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2018
6054 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 12:50 am to
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Because you have a chance for a turnover . Damn there are some dumb MFs on here.


Cuonzo put no pressure on them and let them run out the clock. How were they going to get a turnover just standing around and letting Auburn dribble out the play clock?

You keep proving over and over again you either A) Didn't watch the game or B) have never watched basketball in your life.
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3606 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:02 am to
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Oats also went to the sweet 16 last year, and beat gonzaga this year, although we did lose to Auburn at home as expected.


FIFY
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 1/26/22 at 1:26 am to
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KD is one of the best FT shooters in the SEC.


He’s a 68% free throw shooter. Was 61% last year.
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