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Comparing 2019 & 2020
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:30 pm
Here's my melt:
Alabama had the most impressive program accomplishment in history. However, the 2019 & 2020 seasons aren't comparable (and I don't necessarily mean in favor of LSU).
We have no way of comparing this year's SEC to last's. Other than there were no truly great defenses this year like, say, Georgia's in 2019, and that many players and inferior programs faced issues with playing and practicing compared to a normal year. This is also what makes Bama's season so impressive as they weren't exempt from these issues.
We have no way to measure the effect of home and away games in empty vs packed stadiums. It's just different, especially when weighing QB play. Mac Jones crumbled under the pressure of Jordan Hare in 2019 whereas he faced no pressure of SEC away games in any environment in 2020. Part of what made Joe Burrow so laudable was his composure on the biggest stage. JV football game attendance made even the biggest stage fairly scrimmage-esque.
The seniority of Bama's 2020 team is what weathered the COVID storm most programs couldn't. Playing 10 SEC games is impressive. However, the idea that 2019 LSU would have been affected by adding Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, etc. to their resume is absurd.
Anyway, congrats Alabama on arguably the greatest season ever. I'm mad and upset so i guess enjoy that.
Alabama had the most impressive program accomplishment in history. However, the 2019 & 2020 seasons aren't comparable (and I don't necessarily mean in favor of LSU).
We have no way of comparing this year's SEC to last's. Other than there were no truly great defenses this year like, say, Georgia's in 2019, and that many players and inferior programs faced issues with playing and practicing compared to a normal year. This is also what makes Bama's season so impressive as they weren't exempt from these issues.
We have no way to measure the effect of home and away games in empty vs packed stadiums. It's just different, especially when weighing QB play. Mac Jones crumbled under the pressure of Jordan Hare in 2019 whereas he faced no pressure of SEC away games in any environment in 2020. Part of what made Joe Burrow so laudable was his composure on the biggest stage. JV football game attendance made even the biggest stage fairly scrimmage-esque.
The seniority of Bama's 2020 team is what weathered the COVID storm most programs couldn't. Playing 10 SEC games is impressive. However, the idea that 2019 LSU would have been affected by adding Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, etc. to their resume is absurd.
Anyway, congrats Alabama on arguably the greatest season ever. I'm mad and upset so i guess enjoy that.
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:32 pm to mattytiger123
Lol another one
You guys physically cannot help yourselves from spewing salt everywhere
You guys physically cannot help yourselves from spewing salt everywhere
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:35 pm to mattytiger123
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Mac Jones crumbled under the pressure of Jordan Hare in 2019
I guess if you consider throwing for 300+ yards with 4/2 td/int as crumbling under pressure
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:38 pm to mattytiger123
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We have no way to measure the effect of home and away games in empty vs packed stadiums
2019 LSUs road schedule excluding the Bama game
8-5 Texas
3-9 Vandy
6-7 Mississippi State
4-8 Ole Miss
fricking Road Warriors!!!
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:38 pm to mattytiger123
quote:Since you're comparing how Mac did in big games the year before the natty, riddle me this: what were Joe Burrow's stats against Bama in 2018?
Mac Jones crumbled under the pressure of Jordan Hare in 2019 whereas he faced no pressure of SEC away games in any environment in 2020. Part of what made Joe Burrow so laudable was his composure on the biggest stage.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:41 pm to Glorious
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2019 LSUs road schedule excluding the Bama game
Well that's fricking convenient don't you think?
To just arbitrarily take out the best road win on the schedule.
How bout this, I'll take out last night's victory from bamas 2020 schedule. HA! There! See, no national championship!
That was easy
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:43 pm to Glorious
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excluding the Bama game
*apart from that away game in one of college football's most difficult environments against the #2 team in the nation, you had it easy!
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:45 pm to im4LSU
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Well that's fricking convenient don't you think?
To just arbitrarily take out the best road win on the schedule.
The point being that Road fans only mattered twice for LSU last year. Credit to them they went in and beat a great Bama team and a good Texas team on the road but it wasnt some crazy road schedule.
There is a tradeoff to the no fans argument. LSU had 2 fairly close home games against Auburn and Florida with a full death valley behind them. Bama had to play 2 top-8 teams at home with little crowd help. Won both by 17+
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:46 pm to TideCPA
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Since you're comparing how Mac did in big games the year before the natty, riddle me this: what were Joe Burrow's stats against Bama in 2018?
The idea that 2018 Burrow and 2019 Mac Jones were given remotely similar tools for success is probably the funniest shite I've read.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:49 pm to mattytiger123
I feel fricking crazy dick riding Alabama today. I honestly hoped they would lose. But you dickskins are making it too easy
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:49 pm to mattytiger123
quote:I'm so sorry that Burrow crumbled under the pressure of playing Bama at home in 2018. Clearly means his 2019 season is tainted.
The idea that 2018 Burrow and 2019 Mac Jones were given remotely similar tools for success is probably the funniest shite I've read.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 12:50 pm to mattytiger123
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The idea that 2018 Burrow and 2019 Mac Jones were given remotely similar tools for success is probably the funniest shite I've read.
Checked stats: didn't support narrative
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:19 pm to TideCPA
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I'm so sorry that Burrow crumbled under the pressure of playing Bama at home in 2018. Clearly means his 2019 season is tainted.
I didn't say Mac's season was tainted. 2019 Mac had more weapons at reciever than he did this year, so he was clearly set up for great success and threw two pick six's on the road, ruining Bama's playoff chances in 2019. That's the only conventional sample size of Mac in a traditional environment.
As for Burrow, the 2018 LSU team didn't have Ruggs, Jeudy, Smith, Waddle, etc. so he wasn't necessarily set up for success or put in a place to compete with an elite Bama squad.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:31 pm to mattytiger123
Burrow vs. Auburn in 2019: 32/42 321 yards 1 TD 1 INT
Jones vs. Auburn in 2019: 26/39 335 yards 4 TD 2 INT
derp
Jones vs. Auburn in 2019: 26/39 335 yards 4 TD 2 INT
derp
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:33 pm to mattytiger123
quote:You're working hard today Matty.
mattytiger123
Comparing 2019 & 2020
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:34 pm to TideCPA
Posted on 1/12/21 at 1:58 pm to TideCPA
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Burrow vs. Auburn in 2019: 32/42 321 yards 1 TD 1 INT
Jones vs. Auburn in 2019: 26/39 335 yards 4 TD 2 INT
derp
One cost his team the game, the other didn't
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:00 pm to Glorious
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excluding the Bana game
Excluding beating the #3 team on their field that had a 30 game home win streak!
And forget that SECCG with 80% UGAy fans!
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:05 pm to mattytiger123
quote:One's defense gave up 34 points and lost by 3; one's defense gave up 20 points and won by 3.
One cost his team the game, the other didn't
Thanks for this thread, though. I never would have otherwise realized that Mac Jones had a better statistical game against the SEC's best defense in 2019 on the road in his second career start than Burrow did at home in his 19th. Oof.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:13 pm to mattytiger123
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