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re: CFB Program Rankings

Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:29 pm to
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:29 pm to
Why do those Milkmen act so gay?
Posted by MEd LSU
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:32 pm to
would love to see that
Posted by Boomer00
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:32 pm to
You mean A&M....ISNT a top program like they all claim????
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 4:34 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

15. Auburn- 484
16. Georgia- 472


I imagine it was very difficult for you to post this. I applaud your strength and I want you to know that I'm proud of you, son
Posted by BHMKyle
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:52 pm to
Without changing the formula at all... but adding up the points just from 1998-2018 (BCS/Playoff Era), here is what you get:

**Interestingly, the Top 3 are still the same:

1. Alabama- 546
2. Ohio St.- 436
3. Oklahoma- 347
4. LSU- 340
5. USC- 323
6. Florida- 311
7. Florida St.- 305
8. Clemson- 268
9. Texas- 265
10. Georgia- 227
11. Oregon- 209
12. Auburn- 200
13. Miami- 194
14. Wisconsin- 181
15. Michigan- 178
16. Virginia Tech- 166
17. TCU- 160
18. Boise St.- 149
19. Tennessee- 144
20. Penn St.- 135
21. Stanford- 127
22. Notre Dame- 124
23. Michigan St.- 121
24. Kansas St.- 108
25. Iowa- 93
26. Oklahoma St.- 88
26. Nebraska- 88
28. S. Carolina- 79
29. Missouri- 74

30. Washington- 73

FYI- Arkansas and Texas A&M tie for #33, with Ole Miss coming in at #34
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 4:53 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:53 pm to
Lol, so we took the last 20 years off and cracked tBIG6
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:58 pm to
Nice, great stuff
Posted by BHMKyle
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

I imagine it was very difficult for you to post this. I applaud your strength and I want you to know that I'm proud of you, son


Ha. The gap shrunk from 31 points this time last season to 12. One more season like this year and UGA will pass you guys.
Posted by BHMKyle
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:10 pm to
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Lol, so we took the last 20 years off and cracked tBIG6


This Big 6 is the Big 6 for a reason.... It's very difficult to fall out (as Tennessee has proven) and its even more difficult to join the group. That's the entire point.
Posted by tigerburningbright75
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:42 pm to
Nice work but 75 points for finishing #1 is way too many especially considering that up until 1998 the national title was subjective.
Posted by ibldprplgld
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:26 pm to
That's about how I'd rank them. Let's be honest, history and wins and natties from 25+ years ago are great, but they're largely irrelevant to today's CFB fans and players. It's pretty much a, "what have you done for me lately."

High School recruits don't know Tennessee, Miami, Nebraska, Notre Dame, and Michigan like older fans do.

Every once in a while these guys are competitive, but their history is just that: history.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:29 pm to
Are you sure #1 gets 75 and #2 24? I’ve seen this before but 1 gets 25 points.

I think this method is by far the best to determine historical rankings.... but if #1 gets 25 not 75.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 6:31 pm
Posted by kbrake37
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:48 pm to
quote:

You should make this since the BCS era. 

In that era of football I wouldn't say Nebraska is the #7 program. 





Or even just true modern times since integration , say 1975 to present
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

Nice work but 75 points for finishing #1 is way too many especially considering that up until 1998 the national title was subjective.


There is a ranking that just gives 25. It isn’t that different in positions but the totals and relative differences do vary and are more accurate. Giving #1 25 and #2 24 pretty much eliminates the controversies.

I’ll search it and post it one day. It’s the off-season
Posted by BigOrangeLoyalist
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:29 am to
If you asked me to name the top 30 schools from all-time, I probably would have said 29 off the list... lone exception being Minnesota.

Looks about right. Big 6 for a reason, folks.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:34 am to
It’s as defendable a way to rank programs as any out there. I like it.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
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Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:36 am to
LSU should be 9th after 2019
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:40 am to

I know it would be a lot of extra work, but how about applying the formula to Head Coaches?

Saban would lap the field by multiples considering he's responsible for much of LSUs ranking too.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
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Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:49 am to
It would be interesting to see what it would look like if it used a 25-1 model for awarding points each year (#1 = 25, #25 = 1), then multiplied that by a year factor that decreased each year back for 50 years or so.

So Clemson’s 2018 title would be:
50*(25) = 1250
Bama’s 2017 title would be:
49 (25) = 1225
LSU’s 2003 title would be:
35*(25) = 875
BYU’s 1984 title would garner only 400 points, or about what a top-20 finish this year would be like in terms of national relevance.

Would be a bit more sensitive to time.
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 7:50 am
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 9:33 am to
Does lsu’s 2003 finish count as 24 or 75 points? We won the BCS natty but USC was #1 in the AP poll. An extra 51 points puts LSU at #8
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