re: CFB is in serious need of more variety

You’re making the mistake of assuming these fanbases ever cared about their football teams in a way that SEC fans care about theirs.

The universities are to blame for the lack of parity. They’re all happy to collect a check from their conferences and distribute the money everywhere but the football program.

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Exactly. And yet Bama had linemen 5 yards downfield all night on Monday and were only called for it once. My point is we all know he was crying about "player safety" when it had nothing to do with that. And now that his team does it and does it better than anyone, no one will dare ask him if he feels he might be putting his players in danger.

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Player safety had zero to do with offensive linemen down field.

Player safety had to do with the speed of the game and guys being set and ready to play when the opponent crashes into them.


His question about "do we want football to be this" was about the RPO game and guys down field. Everyone said "yes, we do" so he went out and did it himself.

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Nebraska is dead. They will never be what they used to be. It's not possible. I mean we can all pretend that Tennessee could come back, but at some point when do we face reality and admit that we've had 235 consecutive weekly AP Poll releases that have not one time included Tennessee in the Top 10. Not once!

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I respectfully disagree with this. Nebraska has the facilities, alumni support, and administration to get back to being a Top 20 team year in and year out. They are not much different than Wisconsin in terms of in-state high school talent and recruiting pipelines. Wisconsin has just had a very reliable Department run by a Hall of Fame coach who knows the game. The right coach with the right scheme could be plugged in, develop some recruiting pipelines, and they could be a solid program again. Their problem is they’ve had very bad hires for 20 years. And Tennessee has for 15 years. Both suffer more than a perennial power would bc neither have elite in state talent flooding the program no matter what. You plug the right coach into either of those programs and they have the means to make them strong again.

I mean let's be honest - the only way college football is ever "perfect" is if we ditch all the G5 programs and set the P5 up like the NFL schedule wise and the playoffs are a mathematical equitation based on standings.

Until then, there will always be complaints about how it's set up or allocated or what matters and what doesn't.

It is what it is.

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When did BC ever seriously compete for National Titles before?

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I never said they used to compete for Championships. I said their fans are disinterested.

From 1982-2008, Boston College enjoyed over a quarter century of football in which they average being included in the AP Top 25 in over 25% of the releases. Not championship calibur, but respectable for a Northeast program.

Since 2009, they've been ranked in 2% of the weekly releases. FOUR times out of 196 releases. This just happens to coincide with when big money and skyrocketing recruiting budgets took over the game.

Boston College if one of many programs that can likely trace the downfall in not just their performance but also interest from fans to the mid 2000s.

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From 1982-2008, Boston College enjoyed over a quarter century of football in which they average being included in the AP Top 25 in over 25% of the releases. Not championship calibur, but respectable for a Northeast program.

Since 2009, they've been ranked in 2% of the weekly releases. FOUR times out of 196 releases. This just happens to coincide with when big money and skyrocketing recruiting budgets took over the game.

Boston College if one of many programs that can likely trace the downfall in not just their performance but also interest from fans to the mid 2000s.

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But there have been other teams who were terrible in the 1980s who are now consistently solid programs who are in the Top 25 regularly.

- Northwestern was the worst program in college football and they have been very good for a decade now.

- Kansas State was the co-worst program in America - since 1990 they've been between average to elite

- Oregon was blah until the 90s and they've been between very good and elite for 20 years

- Florida was dog shite awful until 1990 and they've been elite since then

- TCU hadn't been good since the 1930s and have been very good and even great for the last 20 years


You could throw in tons of other programs that in the last 20-30 years have been their best in program history that were awful or barely even existed before that - Mississippi State, Virginia Tech, Florida State, UCF, Oklahoma State, etc.


I mean, it is a yin and yang. Some areas of the country don't have the same kids they used to have. Some are growing. Some programs suck now. Some are good now.

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I mean let's be honest - the only way college football is ever "perfect" is if we ditch all the G5 programs and set the P5 up like the NFL schedule wise and the playoffs are a mathematical equitation based on standings.

Until then, there will always be complaints about how it's set up or allocated or what matters and what doesn't.

It is what it is.

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Yes, this is what I'm talking about. The sport needs a major change if it wants to survive. Right now, College Football tries to be too many different things to too many different people.

We want keep allowing new teams to join FBS (130 something now) but yet we make sure only 65 and never ever any more than that could even theoretically play for a Championship.

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Notice your wording there... "Not even close". This is the issue. If Michigan was just barely missing out of the playoff each year because they lost a close nail-biter to Ohio State every year, it'd be one thing. But it's not close. This is why fans are turning away from the sport.

Nebraska is dead. They will never be what they used to be. It's not possible.

I mean we can all pretend that Tennessee could come back, but at some point when do we face reality and admit that we've had 235 consecutive weekly AP Poll releases that have not one time included Tennessee in the Top 10. Not once!

UCLA you say? They rank 41st nationally since 1999 in terms of weekly appearances in the AP Top 10.

Virginia Tech? Unless they crack the Top 10 next year they'll have completed a decade of zero appearances in the AP Top 10.

The issue is not only that the same teams are always in the Top 5... its that no one else is even close. Again, that's why this is a greater issue that needs to be tackled to save the sport.

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Hey dipshit. Go read about what they said about the Alabama program in 2003-2006.

The only thing you have proven with this thread is that you're a young punk who has no clue what college football has been like over the past 40-50 years.

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Well I'm with you there. It's idiotic.

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The NCAA has no choice or say in who gets into the different levels of college football. Those teams join because they want to.

The only thing they can do is set minimum guidelines like attendance for each division.

If they tried to exclude schools, it would be a nightmare lawsuit.

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Boston College if one of many programs that can likely trace the downfall in not just their performance but also interest from fans to the mid 2000s.

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What is this melt exactly? Mid-tier programs having more success one decade than the next? Army and Navy use to dominate the game 50 years. The times, they change.

Not even to be as dramatic as my previous example; Arkansas was a top 20 program historically 2 decades ago. They’ve slowly dropped to a top 25 program. In another decade they most likely won’t be mentioned as a top 25 program anymore. It happens. Virginia Tech had a hall of fame coach for 30 years. He had 3 seasons with at least 8 losses in his first 6 seasons overall. They had a 15 year stretch as top 20 team and other than that, VT is a pretty bad program historically. And Boston College? Who gives a shite? They literally have Hail Flutie and 3 year run with Matt Ryan and that is it.

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Since 2009, they've been ranked in 2% of the weekly releases. FOUR times out of 196 releases. This just happens to coincide with when big money and skyrocketing recruiting budgets took over the game. Boston College if one of many programs that can likely trace the downfall in not just their performance but also interest from fans to the mid 2000s.

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No way — fans not caring when their team isn’t good? How bizarre. I live in L.A., I can assure you USC fans are as disinterested as any fan base in the country. It’s not because of skyrocketing recruiting budgets and big money — it’s because they suck.