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CBS Sports : Best In College Sports Award (more weighted Athletic Dept Rankings)

Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:42 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:42 am
CBS Sports : Best In College Sports Athletic Department Awards

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The National Association of College Directors of Athletics (NACDA) has been ranking athletic programs for years by weighing every sport equally, meaning a football national title is worth the same number of points (100) as a women's water polo title. CBS Sports tweaked the formula in 2013, providing additional weight toward sports with more broad fan bases and media interest. We rate every FBS school in three sports -- football, men's basketball and women's basketball -- along with two "wild cards" among the school's most successful spectator sports: baseball, softball, volleyball, soccer, gymnastics, lacrosse, hockey and wrestling.

The weighted formula puts 2.5 times as much emphasis on football and 2.0 times the emphasis on men's basketball compared to women's basketball and the "wild cards." Teams that did not finish in the final AP Top 25 in football but played in a bowl were awarded 62.5 points (25 x 2.5). Teams that made the men's NIT were given 20 points (10 x 2), while WNIT teams received 10 points. For all titles settled via bracket, point totals were based upon how many teams participated. All champions in the other sports received 100 points for a national title.


This is what a lot of people were basically arguing for when we posted the Directors Cup.


1. Michigan (501.75)
2. KENTUCKY (494.25)
3. Oklahoma (490.00)
4. LSU (465.75)
5. Ohio State (456.00)
6. Virginia (432.50)
7. Iowa (419.00)
8. FLORIDA (417.88)
9. Notre Dame
10. Washington

12. ALABAMA (394.75)
15. AUBURN (376.50)
26. TEXAS A&M (324.25)
30. MISSISSIPPI STATE (313.50)
32. GEORGIA (300.88)
34. TENNESSEE (290.00)
48. MISSOURI (241.50)
50. SOUTH CAROLINA (226.50)
52. VANDERBILT (212.50)
64. OLE MISS (178.00)
68. ARKANSAS (158.50)
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 8:44 am
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4140 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:44 am to
So State finished 7th in the SEC with the smallest budget?

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48857 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:45 am to
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BS Sports tweaked the formula in 2013, providing additional weight toward sports with more broad fan bases and media interest


That seems like a dumb reason to weigh things differently.

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We rate every FBS school in three sports -- football, men's basketball and women's basketball -- along with two "wild cards" among the school's most successful spectator sports: baseball, softball, volleyball, soccer, gymnastics, lacrosse, hockey and wrestling.


So it's not equal across the board - each school has their best wild card sport counted, which can be chosen from almost everything but football

No equestrian? List is shite.

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The weighted formula puts 2.5 times as much emphasis on football and 2.0 times the emphasis on men's basketball compared to women's basketball and the "wild cards.


Well that's just stupid.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:46 am to
Bottom 5 Power 5 Schools
T96. Kansas State
82. Colorado
76. Georgia Tech
75. Southern Cal
73. Rutgers

Top 5 Non-P5 Schools
17. UCF
38. Cincinnati
41. Boise State
44. Houston
46. BYU
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:47 am to
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So it's not equal across the board - each school has their best wild card sport counted, which can be chosen from almost everything but football


Football, Men's Basketball and Women's Basketball are included for everyone. Then after that the school's 2 best NCAA sport finishes are chosen.


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Well that's just stupid.


And an equal number of people think the Director's Cup is stupid as evidenced by the thread on it a week or two ago
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 8:49 am
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19529 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:53 am to
But but but but but but but Baseball is Big 3 baw!!!!!
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28893 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:55 am to
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along with two "wild cards" among the school's most successful spectator sports: baseball, softball, volleyball, soccer, gymnastics, lacrosse, hockey and wrestling.

No equestrian? Garbage list.

On a more serious note how can they leave off the global sport of golf, but include regional sports of lacrosse, hockey, and wrestling? Vandy, LSU, Auburn, and UGA all finished in the Top 15 in golf this year.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 8:57 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:56 am to
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But but but but but but but Baseball is Big 3 baw!!!!!



You mad
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 8:58 am to
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On a more serious note how can they leave off the global sport of golf, but include regional sports of lacrosse, hockey, and wrestling? Vandy, LSU, Auburn, and UGA all finished in the Top 15 this year.



Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41038 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:03 am to
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8. FLORIDA (417.88)


I'll take a top ten finish in what I think was a down year.
Football definitely took a leap forward, but basketball and baseball took a step back.
This post was edited on 7/11/19 at 9:04 am
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
98776 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:06 am to
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2. KENTUCKY (494.25)


Man, that’s a lot of points for just one sport.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24931 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:07 am to
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30. MISSISSIPPI STATE (313.50) 32. GEORGIA (300.88)


Printing banner now. Hanging it at Piedmont Park.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30795 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:02 am to
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The weighted formula puts 2.5 times as much emphasis on football and 2.0 times the emphasis on men's basketball compared to women's basketball and the "wild cards." Teams that did not finish in the final AP Top 25 in football but played in a bowl were awarded 62.5 points (25 x 2.5). Teams that made the men's NIT were given 20 points (10 x 2), while WNIT teams received 10 points. For all titles settled via bracket, point totals were based upon how many teams participated. All champions in the other sports received 100 points for a national title.


Makes sense when you think of the Athletic Department as a revenue generator.

If you think of it in terms of university prestige, then the formulas would be vastly different.

It is kind of telling when you look at the team that won the national title in the sport with the most point potential (Clemson) finishing 14th, but UVa winning the 2nd most lucrative is much higher thanks to winning one of the wild card championships.

Also 4 teams finished with 0 points. Two from Texas.
Posted by BulldogDX
Member since Mar 2011
902 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:29 am to
And that's with Men's Tennis not counting as a wildcard. That would have been a great 5th sport to count.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:40 am to
Why the difference between BB and Football ? Should be weighted the same.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7908 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:41 am to
What did they count as our two wild cards then? I'm sure Baseball was one.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7908 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:42 am to
Men's Basketball doesn't get popular until the NCAA Tournament. Every single game in College Football is popular.

Now certainly the argument could be made that the postseason for college basketball as a whole is more popular than the postseason for college football. But it isn't by much. And really for the most part football has just always just been that sport.
Posted by joshua2571
Member since Nov 2015
8137 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 10:59 am to
Things change quickly!!!
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 7/11/19 at 11:03 am to
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Men's Basketball doesn't get popular until the NCAA Tournament. Every single game in College Football is popular.

Now certainly the argument could be made that the postseason for college basketball as a whole is more popular than the postseason for college football. But it isn't by much. And really for the most part football has just always just been that sport.


What is the bigger contract: NCAA Basketball or CF?
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