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re: CBS All time All-Americans

Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:49 am to
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Marcus DuPree


Seriously? Back that up with numbers?

Potential.....something that’s never happened.
Posted by ClemTig
Ohio
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 8:56 am to

He averaged 8.5 ypc as a freshman. After that he suffered a knee injury. I didn’t say he should be on any of these teams, I just said he was top 4 I ever saw. For that moment in time he was Superman.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35473 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:01 am to
Only two unanimous selections. One was Orlando Pace.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:01 am to
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Roger Staubach should be on their as either 1st or 2nd team with what he did at Navy.


I agree. It’s hard to argue against either Frazier or Tebow, but Staubach is regarded by some as the greatest college football player ever.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:07 am to
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JC's ability and talent are undermined by this being what he's known for and being a USCe fan you shouldn't perpetuate it. You should do better.


Too many big words in this
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Quarterback -- Tommie Frazier (Nebraska, 1992-95):




Posted by 1badboy
In space
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:13 am to
Billy Cannon LSU !!!
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:16 am to
quote:

Peyton Manning's best year in college 63.9%(1996), Tua 69 percent (2018)



Just to clarify...Manning's completion percentage for 1995 was 64.2%.

Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 9:29 am to
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only issue for me is Frazier 1st team


quote:

You must not have seen they guy play. Plus he played back before officiating made being a QB much easier.



Tommy Frazier played at Nebraska from 1992-1995. He accounted for 5,516 total yards (passing and rushing) and 79 TDs in 4 seasons. Compare that to Ty Detmer...who accounted for 14,665 total yards and 79 TDs. They had the same number of touchdowns, but Detmer accounted for nearly 3 times as many yards in offensive production. How did officiating make being a QB easier for Detmer who played 4 years earlier?

For what it's worth...I did see the guy play...you can say that Detmer's passing numbers are inflated because of the system he was in...but that would be the same narrative for Frazier's rushing numbers. He was a helluva runner and an adequate passer. With that Nebraska squad...that was all you needed.
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 10:22 am to
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The list has some major holes. Frazier at QB

There's more to playing QB than just throwing the ball; Frazier was a master of Nebraska's option offense as well as a great leader. The dude was a missed FG away in the '93 championship game from leading Nebraska to three straight national titles; I don't know of another QB that played in three national championship games. He came off the bench (he had blood clot issues most of that season) to lead 'em to the '94 title; no way Nebraska wins against Miami without him. He absolutely dismantled a really good UF team that dominated the SEC in '95, hence leading to the joke:

How many Gators does it take to tackle Tommie Frazier?

Answer: Nobody knows (but we know it's more than 11)
Posted by outlawjoseywales
Memphis, TN
Member since Sep 2012
1835 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 11:23 am to
Ditka a better TE than Kellen Winslow???
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:13 pm to
Frazier was unstoppable. Unquestioned leader of a Back 2 Back national champion and carried teams in the way very few players can. I wouldn't like him at QB in a modern offense, be he's a legit choice.

I still think Vick was better, though.

Also, before I pick Tua, I'd pick Kyler Murray. He had the greatest Offensive season in memory.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:34 pm to
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I still have nightmares of Johnny Rogers in the 1972 Sugar Bowl.

Dude was something else.


Orange Bowl. But whatever.

This was before free substitution when teams could only substitute two players on any play unless there had been a change of possession. I wonder if watching John Hannah and Jim Krapf try to cover punts to Rodgers hastened the implementation of free substitution.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

I still have nightmares of Johnny Rogers in the 1972 Sugar Bowl.


Been a Bama fan for at least 50 years. Wow!


We're not all millennials here.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by BammerDelendaEst
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 12:54 pm to
In the first & second teams combined, I see two (2) players from before 1960.

They should do a separate team for the era of single platoon football. Completely different sport.
Posted by PCRammer
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by tattoo
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:34 pm to
When pressured Manning collapsed.
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:37 pm to
Agree. No way Frazier is the all time #1 QB. But the list in general is very good.

Tua is great but no way that should even be considered having only played 1 real season.
This post was edited on 8/15/19 at 1:42 pm
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 8/15/19 at 1:45 pm to
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Defensive linemen -- Lee Roy Selmon (Oklahoma, 1972-75), Ndomukung Suh (Nebraska, 2005-09), Hugh Green (Pittsburgh, 1977-80), Reggie White (Tennessee, 1980-83)



I agree with his awesomeness in the NFL...but for college disruption...I don't know that any of these (including Reggie White) were as much of a force as Doug Atkins.


Atkins was the only unanimous selection to the SEC All Quarter-Century team and was selected as the overall SEC "Player of the Quarter-Century" for the years 1950 to 1975.

- Pro Football Hall of Fame
- College Football Hall of Fame
- Chicagoland Sports Hall of Fame.
- Jersey number, #91, retired by UT
- Jersey number, #81, retired by the Saints

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