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Can a 2-Loss SEC Champ still make the playoff?

Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:48 pm
What if UGA drops one to Oregon, then another to Miss St (or whatever SEC opponent you think has the best shot), but then beats an undefeated Bama for the SECCG.

Or reverse it- Say a 2-loss Bama beats an undefeated UGA in the SECCG. Who goes and who gets left out?

There are some who say the conference champ games are an unnofficial round 1 of the playoffs. But then there's people who look at the body of work for the season, compare schedules, etc.

History shows us that a 1 loss SECCG loser still gets in. But a 2 loss winner?
Posted by Jacknola
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:51 pm to
LSU 2007…
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:54 pm to
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LSU 2007


That was BCS computer bullshite. I'm talking about a 4 team playoff decided by a committee.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:57 pm to
2017 Auburn definitely was in if we had beat UGA
Posted by Mulkey Man
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

That was BCS computer bull shite. I'm talking about a 4 team playoff decided by a committee.


There is no case for anyone finishing ahead of LSU in 2007, it was just a weird year with a lot of parity.
Posted by Jacknola
New Orleans
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 12:59 pm to
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BCS computer bull shite

BCS wasn’t decided by a computer numb nuts… the scenario is exactly the one you postulated except it was for final two, not four. Sorry if you don’t like the answer…

…oh… and a Georgia team that loses to Oregon and Miss State isn’t beating an undefeated Alabama.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

2017 Auburn definitely was in if we had beat UGA



This. We were number 2 going into the SECCG with 2 losses.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Can a 2-Loss SEC Champ still make the playoff


Of course they can, depending on what happens with other conference winners.

Auburn in 2017 was a mortal lock despite having 2 losses, had they won the sec.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:03 pm to
No.. it would take some really special circumstances.

Even they don’t say this, all of the playoffs committees actions on playoff team basically go by this criteria in this order

1. P5 - Conf Champ- 0 loss
2. Notre Dame- 0 loss
3. P5 - Conf Champ- 1 loss
4. P5 - Non Champ- 1 loss
5. Notre Dame- 1 loss
6. G5 Champ- 0 loss
.. never made it past this..
7. P5- Champ- 2 loss
8. P5- non champ - 2 loss
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:04 pm to
2017 Auburn is a different scenario because their opponent in the SECCG also has a loss. So after the SECCG if Auburn had won, it would have been UGA with two losses and Auburn with two losses, it makes sense to give the nod to the SEC winner, particularly because the runner up would have lost twice to Auburn at that point. But they still would have let in 1-loss Bama.

The scenarios are different than what I painted in the OP.

Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

When UGA drops one to Oregon, then another to The GATORS


FIFY
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:06 pm to
If State has really good year and finishes 9-3 or better, then in that scenario Georgia gets in.

Also depends on what happens else where.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

it was just a weird year with a lot of shitty teams.




Fixed it.
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 1:10 pm
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5211 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:10 pm to
You would have, but the circumstances would have been truly unique, you would have knocked off #1 UGA and #1 Alabama in a 3 week span and beat UGA again for the Conf title.. most 2 loss teams would not have that.. and speaking to this year, it’s impossible for Oregon to be ranked number 1 when UGA plays them.. and there is no way in Hell MSU will be. UGA will be lucky to have 2 top 10 wins this year.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

2017 Auburn is a different scenario because their opponent in the SECCG also has a loss.

Don’t see how that changes things. If UGA was undefeated in that SECCG and we beat them, Auburn still would’ve been in. Only thing that changes is UGA would also likely be in.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:11 pm to
You also forget that OSU had 2 loss and a BIG10 title, they knocked off Wisconsin who had 1 loss.
Posted by Arzrbkfan
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:13 pm to
Even more likely now. The SEC champ would would still get in even with 3 loses now if they were to other SEC teams.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

but the circumstances would have been truly unique,

Is the question can a 2 loss SEC champ make the playoff? Or is it can UGA make it in that specific scenario?

The title of the thread asks the first question. The answer is 100% yes because we’ve seen a scenario where it definitely would’ve happened.

I’m not going to go into a specific hypothetical scenario and say whether they’re in or not just because it’s way too complicated to figure out. Too many other teams to factor in.

Auburns scenario that year wasn’t common but I wouldn’t say it’s ridiculous for another team to do the same. The teams in the West have that kind of schedule on the reg.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37388 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:18 pm to
In 2007 the only teams with a better record were Ohio state and Hawaii.

UGA didn’t even win their division of their conference. Something that should prevent any team from playing in a 2 or 4 team championship series.

USC lost to a 42 point underdog at home.

VT was arse raped by lsu earlier in the season.

LSU was the only logical choice to get into the BCS
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
29963 posts
Posted on 8/7/22 at 1:20 pm to
The SEC can do Whatever the hell it wants
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