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re: Bryce Young will be best QB in SEC this year. Making it 5 out of 6 years we’ve had best QB

Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:29 am to
Posted by LSUFM
Flower Mound, TX
Member since Oct 2018
729 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:29 am to
Cherry picking. Those stats are for a career. You stated by year. Therefore, the stats you quoted are skewed. Try again
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:40 am to
it clearly indicates career leaders

Passing Efficiency Rating Career Leaders and Records

Leaders Since 1956
Rk Player Rate From To School
1 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2017 2019 Alabama
2 Mac Jones* 197.6 2018 2020 Alabama
3 Kyler Murray* 181.3 2015 2018 Oklahoma
4 Justin Fields* 178.8 2018 2020 Ohio State
5 Sam Bradford* 175.6 2007 2009 Oklahoma
6 Baker Mayfield* 175.4 2013 2017 Oklahoma
7 Dwayne Haskins* 174 2017 2018 Ohio State
8 Joe Burrow* 172.4 2015 2019 LSU
9 Marcus Mariota* 171.8 2012 2014 Oregon
10 Tim Tebow* 170.8 2006 2009 Florida
Posted by LSUFM
Flower Mound, TX
Member since Oct 2018
729 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:46 am to
Yes, but the whole point of the thread is “by year”
In other words, each year. Not by career
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 9:47 am
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36285 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 10:24 am to
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So original. God this board sucks.



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Damn, you guys are insufferable


It's so easy to wish awful things upon them.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 10:40 am to
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Yes, but the whole point of the thread is “by year”
In other words, each year. Not by career


that post was a direct response to a LSU fan that said
"Tua’s reputation was basically built on one half versus Georgia"

So yes, the link is to show that the Career Record Holder is Tua Tagovailoa. It isn't one half of a game, or even a game, or even a season. It's for an entire career and it explicitly refutes his stupid contention.

It's not my problem you are struggling with comprehending simple facts.

I am thankful, though, that you keep giving me the opportunity to post a link that shows the past 2 Alabama quarterbacks #1 and #2 and Joe Burrow #8 among college quarterbacks in career pass efficiency.

Passing Efficiency Rating Career Leaders and Records

Leaders Since 1956
Rk Player Rate From To School
1 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2017 2019 Alabama
2 Mac Jones* 197.6 2018 2020 Alabama
3 Kyler Murray* 181.3 2015 2018 Oklahoma
4 Justin Fields* 178.8 2018 2020 Ohio State
5 Sam Bradford* 175.6 2007 2009 Oklahoma
6 Baker Mayfield* 175.4 2013 2017 Oklahoma
7 Dwayne Haskins* 174 2017 2018 Ohio State
8 Joe Burrow* 172.4 2015 2019 LSU
9 Marcus Mariota* 171.8 2012 2014 Oregon
10 Tim Tebow* 170.8 2006 2009 Florida

LINK
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5287 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 10:50 am to
Those odds show that Burrow was the favorite leading into the LSU Alabama game...

Also, I don't understand how you can point to week 8 heisman odds and say he had a better season

Fournette was an overwhelming favorite to win the heisman on october 6th and october 13th in 2015! Derrick Henry was +2000 at that point. If Leonard didn't have a bad game against Alabama, he would have won it!

See how dumb that argument is? Tua got hurt on a routine play, missed one half of football, then lost to LSU. Joe Burrow was better and had a better season. I don't know why I'm even arguing this. There is literally no argument
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5287 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 10:50 am to
dp
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 10:51 am
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78824 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 10:51 am to
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Tua’s reputation was basically built on one half versus Georgia, when he had the element of surprise on his side. What else did he actually accomplish at UA? Losing to Clemson and LSU?


Ouch
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 11:19 am to
ouch!

Passing Efficiency Rating Career Leaders and Records

Leaders Since 1956
Rk Player Rate From To School
1 Tua Tagovailoa* 199.4 2017 2019 Alabama
2 Mac Jones* 197.6 2018 2020 Alabama
3 Kyler Murray* 181.3 2015 2018 Oklahoma
4 Justin Fields* 178.8 2018 2020 Ohio State
5 Sam Bradford* 175.6 2007 2009 Oklahoma
6 Baker Mayfield* 175.4 2013 2017 Oklahoma
7 Dwayne Haskins* 174 2017 2018 Ohio State
8 Joe Burrow* 172.4 2015 2019 LSU
9 Marcus Mariota* 171.8 2012 2014 Oregon
10 Tim Tebow* 170.8 2006 2009 Florida
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52194 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 11:21 am to
Pretty interesting that Tua had such a good career but never actually was able to win a title as a full time starter.

Posted by paperwasp
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22928 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 11:25 am to
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Pretty interesting that Tua had such a good career but never actually was able to win a title as a full time starter.

Never could stay healthy. He’s like a weird version of Joe Namath in that regard. All that potential, but his body just wasn’t made for that shite.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
9657 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 11:30 am to
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Tua’s reputation was basically built on one half versus Georgia, when he had the element of surprise on his side. What else did he actually accomplish at UA? Losing to Clemson and LSU?



This is an uncomfortable truth. And probably unfair to Tua. But the expectations were sky high after that half...we were going to win the Natty and the Heisman the next two years....

...and both years started that way, only to end in injury and disappointment. We did win ONE SEC Championship--but Hurts finished/saved that game.

It's why I place both AJ and Mac ahead of Tua on my list of Saban QBs. They led wire to wire, and won the conference (AJ once...sorry about that do-over LSU) and the natties.

Tua will forever be a hero for that 2nd half, and that 2nd and 26 play--perhaps the biggest play in Bama football history.

And he was a lot of fun to watch the following years, putting up a lot of highlights and stats that ultimately amounted to a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

If he had played a little bit smarter--live to fight another down, throw the ball away, etc--I think the outcome would have been much different.

Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13849 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 11:39 am to
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Pretty interesting that Tua had such a good career but never actually was able to win a title as a full time starter.


The ONLY person that stopped Tua was coach Saban. He was the MVP of the title game in 2017 so throw out all the left-handed statements you like, we don't win without him, period.

He literally was pulled out of the ballgame before the 4th quarter in the vast majority of games in 2018. A lot of them most of the 3rd as well. We mismanaged Tua as far as allowing him to set passing marks, win a Heisman and just play football and continue to learn the game. He was only a Sophomore in actual football experience and couldn't play for much more than a half for almost the entire year. Making Jalen Hurts happy enough to stick it out and co-exist as the nonstarter was the Saban gameplan and Tua paid the ultimate price.

Tua Tagovailoa could have set a passing/TD bar in the SEC and the nation that would have taken superhuman effort to reach if he had played 4 quarters of football in 2018.
Posted by BillBrosky
Your wife's back door
Member since Mar 2012
2727 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 11:44 am to
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He literally was pulled out of the ballgame before the 4th quarter in the vast majority of games in 2018. A lot of them most of the 3rd as well. We mismanaged Tua


I respectfully disagree. I think he is too injury prone and the homerun ball would've caught up to him. JMO
Posted by The Contrarian
Member since Sep 2019
382 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 12:02 pm to
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Why do y'all make so many excuses for Tua? He had a lot of talent, but didn't accomplish all that much for you guys.


Same could be said for Burrow in 2018. Tua was winning a NC while Burrow was still riding the bench at tOSU.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36285 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 1:49 pm to
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Same could be said for Burrow in 2018. Tua was winning a NC while Burrow was still riding the bench at tOSU.


And we all saw what happened when Joe was given the keys as the starting QB.
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