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re: Brian Kelly was 0-2 against Nick Saban

Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:43 pm to
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Because this years Bama team isn't as good?


Same coaches as the ones last year that won sec championship and if not for losing some wide receivers would have won the championship (so we’re told).

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Their record in the regular seasons tells the story.


So Tennessee and lsu didn’t beat bama, bama just didn’t win? Lol

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This is only the 3rd Bama team in 15 season under Saban that has had more the 1 loss in the regular season.

Yep, and that is because other teams are getting better. Alabama has not gotten worse. Show me where they have a bad recruiting class, or where they didn’t get a transfer they wanted. Did the coaches leave? Is Nick saban retired?

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A 2 loss regular season is a rare down year for Bama under Saban, but at LSU, it's celebrated


Because of them being bama? Lol or is it due to them having the goat? LSU has had two Neanderthals as head coach who can not sniff a field anywhere’s else. Of course it was a big deal to win 10 games with them.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:45 pm to
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Alabama has not gotten worse


Come on, that's absurd
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:45 pm to
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And A&M had.....App State...


Yes, A&M was almost Alabama’s App state. I can not imagine it would have been that close if Bryce plays though.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:46 pm to
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bullshite. Not talent wise. Maybe coaching.


Same coaching staff that beat the hell out of Georgia in the sec championship game, and had a lead in the fourth of the national championship down a wr.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Come on, that's absurd


They are not performing at the level of dominance we are all used to. But I think to attribute that solely to Alabama being down is ludicrous. Teams have hired better coaches, and have made other necessary changes that have leveled the playing field.
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3348 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:49 pm to
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I guess that settles it then. Brian Kelly is better than the GOAT.


Nah, that wasn't the argument. Just an argument for what LSU is capable of accomplishing with Kelly as its coach.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:51 pm to
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Nah, that wasn't the argument. Just an argument for what LSU is capable of accomplishing with Kelly as its coach.


Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3348 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:51 pm to
Alabama is down in certain areas, but Alabama fans don't want to realize that the biggest enabler of Alabama's dynasty outside of Saban was LSU's incompetence. With competent leadership from the AD to the HC at LSU, Alabama has half as many championships during that time.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 12:52 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:51 pm to
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They are not performing at the level of dominance we are all used to. But I think to attribute that solely to Alabama being down is ludicrous. Teams have hired better coaches, and have made other necessary changes that have leveled the playing field.


Of course - absolutely agree. Throw in the fact that it turns out that our 4 toughest opponents are all road games and it would make sense for things to have been tough this season even if we weren't struggling.

But.....we have been a 10-14 pt margin a game worse football team the last 20+ football games (sans the SECCG) from basically any year from 2011-2020 (outside of a few games here and there in 2014, 2015 and 2017).
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:53 pm to
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Alabama is down in certain areas, but Alabama fans don't want to realize that the biggest enabler of Alabama's dynasty outside of Saban was LSU's incompetence. With competent leadership from the AD to the HC at LSU, Alabama has half as many championships during that time.


Eh, sure, but same could be said of Georgia too. Or Alabama in the early 2000s. Or Florida in the 1970s. Or LSU in the 1990s.

The OP said that Kelly lost to Alabama in 2012 and 2020 but then won this year and made the case that the difference was Notre Dame and LSU. Well, sure, but the other difference was Alabama was a weapon of mass destruction in 2012 and 2020 and is a suicide vest on itself in 2022.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted by LSUminati
Member since Jan 2017
3348 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:54 pm to
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Eh, sure, but same could be said of Georgia too. Or Alabama in the early 2000s. Or Florida in the 1970s. Or LSU in the 1990s.


Exactly, which goes to the point of other teams getting better is a key factor, which I believe was what was being argued against your point that it's Alabama getting worse that's the story.
Posted by ihateidiots18
Member since Dec 2020
136 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:56 pm to
Who cares? Move on. Everybody has always heard the saying "Act like you've been here before." Yeah pretty obvious you haven't.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 12:56 pm to
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Exactly, which goes to the point of other teams getting better is a key factor, which I believe was what was being argued against your point that it's Alabama getting worse that's the story.



I think the point is that it's both - but from our perspective we the biggest issue is what we do. And our issues right now are self inflicted and have nothing to do with other teams and their situation with their program. We may right our ship and not win at the same level we did in the 2010s because of a more balanced conference (I think that's guaranteed), but that isn't the concern. The concern is our ship isn't right.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21664 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:19 pm to
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bullshite. Not talent wise. Maybe coaching


I don't remember mentioning talent. I said it's the worst team. And yes, coaching is the reason that's true.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21664 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:22 pm to
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Nah, that wasn't the argument. Just an argument for what LSU is capable of accomplishing with Kelly as its coach.



Yes, it was definitely the argument. It's a stupid argument though, either way. This is obviously not a good Bama team. They've lost 2 games already, and nearly lost a couple more. I don't see you guys crowing about what you think A&M is capable of with Jimbo as coach, since he was a 1/2 second away from doing exactly what LSU did.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52195 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:24 pm to
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I don't see you guys crowing about what you think A&M is capable of with Jimbo as coach, since he was a 1/2 second away from doing exactly what LSU did.


Bryce Young played against A&M?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:26 pm to
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Nah, that wasn't the argument. Just an argument for what LSU is capable of accomplishing with Kelly as its coach.
Look what you did with Yaw Yaw as your coach.

frick, the football gods LOVE LSU. You motherfrickers have no excuse EVER to lose a single game, ever.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16437 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:33 pm to
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Same coaches as the ones last year that won sec championship and if not for losing some wide receivers would have won the championship (so we’re told).


Yes. Last year's Bama team wasn't exactly great compared to prior Saban teams either
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:35 pm to
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With competent leadership from the AD to the HC at LSU, Alabama has half as many championships during that time.


Yep
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Who cares?


Obviously the people who posted. It is a topic that is worthy of discussion.

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Move on. Everybody has always heard the saying "Act like you've been here before." Yeah pretty obvious you haven't.


For asking a question? Lol.

Why are you so triggered?
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