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re: Bret Bielema wants rules changes to slow down no-huddle offenses
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:04 pm to HawgAlude
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:04 pm to HawgAlude
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He is done a good job of making himself look totally in over head at Arkansas.
nice english, move your dumbass to western kentucky or wherever you would fit in.
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:04 pm to Roger Klarvin
Hurry up is a gimmick offense anyway.
Notice how the teams winning championships are almost always solid ABC fundamentals type programs that can be versatile.
Nobody running this hurry up crap has won shite, it's the same thing as the triple option. A gimmick that can catch a team off guard, but in no way can sustatin success.
If it were so awesome and unstopable wouldn't everyone be doing it?
It's also highly personel depenedent. A fundamental team works with lots of differnet players, whereas as a hurry up fails miserably unless you get a very specific set of players. That's another reason you don't see it sustain.
Notice how the teams winning championships are almost always solid ABC fundamentals type programs that can be versatile.
Nobody running this hurry up crap has won shite, it's the same thing as the triple option. A gimmick that can catch a team off guard, but in no way can sustatin success.
If it were so awesome and unstopable wouldn't everyone be doing it?
It's also highly personel depenedent. A fundamental team works with lots of differnet players, whereas as a hurry up fails miserably unless you get a very specific set of players. That's another reason you don't see it sustain.
This post was edited on 6/18/13 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:04 pm to piggilicious
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move your dumbass to western kentucky or wherever you would fit in.
Auburn
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:05 pm to WDE24
Crickets
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:07 pm to bdelarosa7
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Bret Bielema wants rules changes to slow down no-huddle offenses
pansy
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:08 pm to UMRealist
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pussy arse bitch... who is he trying to impress? Saban?
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:09 pm to IAmReality
eh, there are two ways to skin a cat. You'll notice that everyone's opinion on this topic falls on what their team runs. I don't see the game evolving as to support a different style of offense as a bad thing, but then again i'm not terribly closed minded.
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Nobody running this hurry up crap has won shite
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Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:10 pm to piggidyphish
I really don't like the no-huddle but Freeze can do whatever works. I'm a big fan of the power I.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:12 pm to IAmReality
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Hurry up is a gimmick offense anyway.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:14 pm to IAmReality
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Hurry up is a gimmick offense anyway.
I'll make sure to tell New England this.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:19 pm to AUCE05
If there were a TD way back when I wonder how many posters would be calling the shotgun formation a puss move meant for gimmicky idiots 
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:19 pm to IAmReality
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Nobody running this hurry up crap has won shite, it's the same thing as the triple option. A gimmick that can catch a team off guard, but in no way can sustatin success.
Nebraska and OU from the 70s-90s say hi
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:22 pm to IAmReality
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Notice how the teams winning championships are almost always solid ABC fundamentals type programs that can be versatile.
If saban ran hurry up he would still win. He can recruit. It's all about players.
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Hurry up is a gimmick offense anyway.
Yeah because the best way to beat bama is to play power football. A&m showed that.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:23 pm to Dr RC
The game evolves, players are much faster and more athletic now, things like the wishbone and triple option are not viable as a primary offense in the modern era.
Gimmicks are a great way to beat Alabama, it's really you're only chance unless you have the horses to play power football. Auburn gave Alabama a huge scare in 2009 much the same way A&M did, they built an early lead with some gadget plays, but couldn't hold on like A&M did. It was a great game plan really. When you have inferior talent you'd be foolish to come out and try to play smashmouth football.
If I had to coach against Alabama I'd run a billion gimmicks and hope for the best.
The only teams that try to play power football with Alabama are teams like LSU who have the players to do it.
Notre Dame was silly for trying, they shoulda done gimmicks.
Gimmicks are a great way to beat Alabama, it's really you're only chance unless you have the horses to play power football. Auburn gave Alabama a huge scare in 2009 much the same way A&M did, they built an early lead with some gadget plays, but couldn't hold on like A&M did. It was a great game plan really. When you have inferior talent you'd be foolish to come out and try to play smashmouth football.
If I had to coach against Alabama I'd run a billion gimmicks and hope for the best.
The only teams that try to play power football with Alabama are teams like LSU who have the players to do it.
Notre Dame was silly for trying, they shoulda done gimmicks.
This post was edited on 6/18/13 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:29 pm to IAmReality
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The only teams that try to play power football with Alabama are teams like LSU who have the players to do it.
So LSU, the team that has to offer child sacrifices for first downs, is your example of what "real" teams with "real" talent should be doing to stop mighty Alabama?
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:29 pm to IAmReality
It's funny bama and Arky fans are afraid of change. When was the last time you guys had a black QB?
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:29 pm to IAmReality
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The game evolves, players are much faster and more athletic now, things like the wishbone and triple option are not viable as a primary offense in the modern era.
First off, triple option would still work just fine if you did it at a big school that recruits well. Triple option was nothing but a gimmick when it first came out too. Then smaller schools started to win with it and the big schools adopted it.
That is just like how HUNH will eventually begin winning titles b/c more and more big schools will eventually adopt it.
Is been mostly relegated to smaller schools until very recently. Is not like it's an offense that has been common across the nation for 50 years.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:31 pm to IAmReality
quote:It works for some teams/coaches.
Hurry up is a gimmick offense anyway.
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Nobody running this hurry up crap has won shite
quote:The SEC alone may have upto a half dozen teams running it or a variation of it this season. Several SEC programs will be shuffling it in and out of their offensive schemes.
If it were so awesome and unstopable wouldn't everyone be doing it?
quote:This is true. And this is why I don't ever expect to see Saban choose this type of philosophy for his team. I don't care for an offensive scheme that relies too heavily on a specific set of players.
It's also highly personel depenedent. A fundamental team works with lots of differnet players, whereas as a hurry up fails miserably unless you get a very specific set of players.
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:33 pm to AUCE05
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When was the last time you guys had a black QB?
quinn grovey is the last i can think of for us- altho i've drank since then and he was back in the late 80's. did aubs have a black qb before him?
edit: brandon mitchell for us duh but he wasn't really a starter and got switched to wr.
This post was edited on 6/18/13 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 6/18/13 at 4:36 pm to IAmReality
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Auburn gave Alabama a huge scare in 2009 much the same way A&M did, they built an early lead with some gadget plays, but couldn't hold on like A&M did. It was a great game plan really.
Sounds like bad coaching. It happend once to you, how do you let a simple gimmick get you twice?
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