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re: Black Mizzou players will strike until Tom Wolfe resigns

Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:45 pm to
many blacks are anti-Semitic. Many Israelis think Obama's motivation in supporting the Iran deal is rooted in anti-Semitism.

it is racist to assume the person who did the swastika is white.

these black players are basically a lynch mob. they have no facts of the motivations behind the alleged acts of racism, and they have no proof the school president doesn't care about racism. yet they want to fire him

and they wouldn't be doing this if Mizzou had a shot of winning the SEC title or getting into a good bowl game.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7628 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:53 pm to
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they should ask the students at Missouri with high GPAs in challenging majors if they think the school president should be forced out for alleged acts of racism by other people. I doubt the majority of these football players are burning it up in the class room yet are getting a free ride.


I'm the last person calling for someone to be fired (unless it's Muschump). But, what if the high GPA students, all think he should be fired too?

Plus, while there are a lot of dumb jocks, there are much more stupid regular students. Have you checked the dropout, flunk out rate? The general student population of most of these schools aren't anything to be proud of. The only difference is that every athletic train wreck is public knowledge. We never hear about the scores of crazy arse regular students.

I don't even have enough time or paper to address your free ride comment. Let me just say that I spent countless hours in the weight room, film room, practice and playing field where my work was not commensurate to my "free ride" pay. You are very misguided if you think a college athletic scholarship is FREE?

Not to mention, many years later, I have had numerous knee and back surgeries, short term memory loss from concussions, blurred vision, arthritis in most joints and migraines, etc., all due to football. The University never paid a dime to all my future medical issues nor took any responsibility. The University of Florida alumni doctor didn't give me a discount because I once played football. Thankfully, I was able to afford it on my own but I know many guys who can't.

Why not remind Chuckie Mullins about his free ride???
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 1:58 pm to
my point is, why should some football players be the only students who have an opinion that matters?

I don't believe the vast majority of students at Mizzou support firing the president over the alledged acts of racism by other people at the college.

the college is free ride, if it is free. you aren't entitled to a free ride at college just b/c you are good at a sport. it is a gift. if you dont' want to put in the effort it takes to excel at the sport, don't take the free ride.

these players are hypocrites b/c they talk about justice while engaging in a mob action. no facts have been established, the acts of racism alleged may not even be acts of racism. no proof the president is a racist or condones racism.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7628 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:03 pm to
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Of course I do. I also believe that the University of Missouri stating that there's no institutionalized, systematic, nor condoned repression at the University is both credible and sufficient.


Has there been a statement by the University? If they did, why would you believe it's credible and sufficient? Do you go to Mizzou or live in the area?

If the entire football team, including the head coach has now come out on this issue, wouldn't you agree that the University response was not sufficient?
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:12 pm to
so now Missouri has to prove they are not racist and they have to prove they don't condone racism. the black players don't have to prove they are racist or condone racism. All they have to do is make the allegation with nothing to support it.

this is a lot like the Duke lacrosse case, where many people include Duke faculty wanted to lynch the lacrosse players and the coach without knowing the facts of the casse, simply because a black woman made an allegation of rape.
Posted by Bear Is Dead
Monroe
Member since Nov 2007
4696 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:15 pm to
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If the entire football team, including the head coach has now come out on this issue, wouldn't you agree that the University response was not sufficient?

The coach will absolutely benefit from this in a huge way. If they made all of this up, he'd still be on board. He picked the side with the ultimate weapon.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
26122 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:16 pm to
Nowadays you have to go out of your way to prove you aren't racist.
Posted by sullivanct19a
Florida
Member since Oct 2015
5239 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:18 pm to
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kiNupe5


sounds like you're threatening people
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
106903 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:18 pm to
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Not to mention, many years later, I have had numerous knee and back surgeries, short term memory loss from concussions, blurred vision, arthritis in most joints and migraines, etc., all due to football. The University never paid a dime to all my future medical issues nor took any responsibility. The University of Florida alumni doctor didn't give me a discount because I once played football. Thankfully, I was able to afford it on my own but I know many guys who can't.


Im sorry that the University of Florida kidnapped you from your home and forced you to play a game while also providing you with an education which has apparently enabled you to have a successful career. Those evil bastards.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7628 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:20 pm to
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Obama it is racist to assume the person who did the swastika is white. these black players are basically a lynch mob. they have no facts of the motivations behind the alleged acts of racism, and they have no proof the school president doesn't care about racism. yet they want to fire him and they wouldn't be doing this if Mizzou had a shot of winning the SEC title or getting into a good bowl game.


Last I checked, Obama was mixed race/multicolored. Still not sure what he has to do with the discussion.

Why would it be racist to make an incorrect assumption? It would just be a wrong assumption. It does not have to be rooted in race. Now if it was orchestrated by a black person in an attempt to race bait, that's another story.

How would me, you or anyone here know that there is no proof? What type of proof do you need to see before you validate their concerns? You don't even think the swastika was racially motivated. You think they are a Lynch Mob??? You think they're bored for not having a winning season? You've already formed an opinion (it might be right). I'm not there, nor do I know anyone that is protesting.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:23 pm to
Most of these school presidents are left wing so it is somewhat amusing to see them be targeted by the stupid left wing people they have pandered to over the years.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22050 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:25 pm to
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Not to mention, many years later, I have had numerous knee and back surgeries, short term memory loss from concussions, blurred vision, arthritis in most joints and migraines, etc., all due to football. The University never paid a dime to all my future medical issues nor took any responsibility


Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:29 pm to
I said no facts have been established about the swastika. I have not concluded anything. i'm criticizing the players for concluding it is racism and racism against blacks.

the point of talking about Obama is he just gave a state sponser of terrorism that hates Israel, and us, millions of dollars, and did not even get our 4 prisoners back. He cleary does not like Israel and thus it is not illegal to believe he might have a problem with Jews in general. The point is there are black people who don't like Jews, I believe Sharpton and Jackson have said anti-Semitic things. Swastika doesn't prove a white person is responsible. The black players are clearly making this assumption, and that the swawstika is anti-black racism when the symbol is the historic symbol for anti-Jew racism.

I do feel like it is probably a hoax, a shock jock, white or black, frat boy thing or a black lives matters thing. they want attention and they are obsessed with racism and accusing ppl of racism. they even made Michael Brown a victim, who is on videotape bullying a store owner and was on drugs.

the swastika is a symbol of anti-Jew racism, not anti-black racism. a noose would be a symbol of anti-black racism.

it is racist and/or dumb to assume a swastika was done by a white person and want a white school president fired for it.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 2:34 pm
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7628 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:37 pm to
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Im sorry that the University of Florida kidnapped you from your home and forced you to play a game while also providing you with an education which has apparently enabled you to have a successful career. Those evil bastards.


I played on my own accord and would do it again given the chance. I would have gotten an education with or without football, with or without the University of Florida. They provided me an education just like hundreds of other universities. I'm proud to have gone to UF but UF did not make me successful. I put in the work. I put in the sweat equity.

I can honestly say that I would have graduated much earlier, I would have had much better grades, I would have went out in the job market much sooner if there was no football. A free ride is a Pell Grant, a need based scholarship, where you don't have to work. If you want to chastise someone, start with the millions of kids that get free grants. There is no free ride in D1 college athletics. Ask the college tennis player or swimmer. Football is a fukking job. It was fun in HS, college is business. You are absolutely nuts if you think it was free??? Much like slave wages but I don't want to get into that shite.

Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:39 pm to
I don't believe you ever played sports for Florida. you are a fabulist. prove me wrong.

lol

that is what the black players are doing to the school prsident
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
22050 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:40 pm to
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Much like slave wages but I don't want to get into that shite.



Ridiculous and offensive. You were not anything near a slave.
Posted by Jamie Lannister
Member since Jun 2015
2143 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:42 pm to
being forced to work in the cotton fields doing back bredaking work is just like getting a free ride to a nice college because you are good at a sport.

lol
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7628 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:45 pm to
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the swastika is a symbol of anti-Jew racism, not anti-black racism. a noose would be a symbol of anti-black racism. it is racist and/or dumb to assume a swastika was done by a white person and want a white school president fired for it.


Maybe they're also protesting anti-Semitic incidents too? Who the hell knows. I've already said that I don't see a lot here to complain about but I'm not there nor have I done any research. I certainly don't see how firing the president will solve anything but I'm not protesting.

I just respect anyone's right/freedom to peacefully protest. Even if it's fricked up. Maybe I might learn something or maybe their norm is the new norm which is very hard to accept.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
7628 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:47 pm to
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Ridiculous and offensive. You were not anything near a slave.


Maybe sweat shop wages resonates better with you?
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