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re: Big Ten to stop schdlng FCS opponents, SEC (and everyone else) should do it too

Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:56 am to
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:56 am to
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LOL at people acting like they care about these FCS athletic dept finances. Not buying that argument.


I certainly don't give two shits about a 1AA athletic dept budget. What I care about is that LSU has to play the most physical teams in the country every year week in and week out while other conferences play shite. Coming off a possible stretch of playing Auburn, UGA, Fla, and Bama in 5 weeks, it's nice to throw a 1AA team in there so they players don't die.
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:56 am to
Man, I hope someone in the SEC takes down mighty Ohio State next year in a bowl game (preferably BCS championship).
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:56 am to
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why would we cancel our exhibition games


Because it is cheap.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79053 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:57 am to
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If anything I wanna keep them just because they bug the holier-than-thou Big 10

Valid point.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:01 am to
The argument about crippling FCS schools budget is a joke. We're not their care takers. So GTFO with that nonsense.

My argument isn't because the Big Ten is doing it we should do it. My argument is the Big Ten is doing it, ALL of us should do it (all bcs schools).

That would create the expectation that everyone has 12 legitimate games every year. It would give MAC/WAC schools a lot of exposure too. That's a whole lot more of televised games. It would also get rid of 6 win "bowl eligible" teams who needed 1-2 FCS wins to get there. It's time to eliminate about 30% of the dead weight in bowl season. Some of those games are GOD AWFUL.

And most importantly, it would be great for us, The fans! I don't know about you guys but I hate the fact that my team plays 12 games and only 7-9 of them are compelling.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:03 am to
I couldn't agree more mwade.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:05 am to
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A lot of these FCS schools really need money and the money paid for these games help the school out.


Most of these small schools count on these games every year for the money they pull in. I wouldn't mind going down to maybe one a year, but we shouldn't just stop playing them all together. Besides, this is just the Big Ten trying to make up for being such an insufferable shite show the last couple of seasons.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41869 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:05 am to
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I certainly don't give two shits about a 1AA athletic dept budget. What I care about is that LSU has to play the most physical teams in the country every year week in and week out while other conferences play shite. Coming off a possible stretch of playing Auburn, UGA, Fla, and Bama in 5 weeks, it's nice to throw a 1AA team in there so they players don't die.
That's a reasonable argument and I would concede that point to you.


I laugh at those who act like they care about the FCS athletic departments because there are major flaws within that argument that we are supporting them. First off, majority of athletic departments of FBS programs operate in the negative. The SEC is the exception in that majority of football programs operate in the positive and generate enough money to support all of their other athletic programs. The same can't be said for most of the country yet people say we need to schedule these lower tier schools when we can't support our own athletic departments? Talk about a flaw in logic. These FCS schools supported themselves with help from their universities before help from FBS schools and they will continue to do so if they choose to stop scheduling them.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61488 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:09 am to
the FCS schools are still division 1 schools.

they are going to put on a lot of pressure to change up March Madness if they get shut out of games vs FBS schools.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Member since Aug 2012
11080 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:09 am to
I'm not a fan of playing fcs schools, but really, do schools like Ohio, MiamiOH, etc really count as FBS. I mean, really?
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:10 am to
I'm actually against this. Big time schools playing FCS schools is what helps the little schools even stay afloat most of the time. While it may not be the most competitive game, I think it's very good to not just let them flop over from bankruptcy.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:11 am to
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hey are going to put on a lot of pressure to change up March Madness if they get shut out of games vs FBS schools.


Nope. Make FCS drop football. Too expensive. Focus on basketball where you are on equal ground to the big boys. More and more schools are doing it.

FCS football loses money anyways, and the more successful the program, the more money they lose (playoffs end up costing them).
This post was edited on 2/13/13 at 11:14 am
Posted by Rig
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:12 am to
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Big time schools playing FCS schools is what helps the little schools even stay afloat most of the time.
This notion is hilarious.

If they can't stay afloat on their own they don't deserve to stay afloat.. here's a novel concept, spend less money! Major FBS athletic depts fall in the negative throughout the majority of the country outside of the SEC yet everyone should schedule the FCS schools to keep them afloat?

Biggest flaw ever. How do the DII and DIII schools survive? They spend within their budgets! What a great idea.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:12 am to
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Ohio, MiamiOH, etc really count as FBS. I mean, really?


I would relegate non AQ teams to FCS. Give AQ to MAC and other smaller conferences, then tell the remaining teams to either join an AQ conference or drop football.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:13 am to
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This is something I hope all BCS conferences will do in the near future. No more glorified scrimmages. CF fans have been getting the shaft from the bcs (and the side effects it brought with it, like intentionally weak non-conf schedules) since its inception. Time to make some changes, here's a decent place to start.

Real match ups, every week. What a concept!


That really hurts FCS schools who get a big pay day with games against power schools.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34327 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:13 am to
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little schools even stay afloat most of the time.


Most aren't solvent anyways. They all lose money.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9908 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:15 am to
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. This is just another thing for them to get on their high horse and complain about the SEC.


It's not like a decent amount of FCS teams aren't better than a good portion of FBS teams.(Appy ST)
Posted by Rig
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:15 am to
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That really hurts FCS schools who get a big pay day with games against power schools.
Then what is your argument for all these power schools whose athletic depts fall into the negative numbers year after year?
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7902 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:34 am to
You'll never convince me to care about an FCSs team budget, it's that simple.

Their survival should not be in any way a factor in the SEC and all BCS conferences banning FCS non-conference games. It's not their responsibility.

Can't afford to play football? Drop it.

Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41869 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:37 am to
That's exactly my point. The FBS level schools have enough financial concerns of their own.
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