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Best QB, RB, WR of all time...
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:37 pm
... based on both college and pro success. Who would you choose?
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:43 pm to Globetrotter747
Otto Graham
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:44 pm to Globetrotter747
Bert Jones qb Peyton Manning a close second
Emmitt Smith rb Shaun Alexander a close second
Hines Ward wr Julio Jones a close second
edit* I stayed in the SEC
Emmitt Smith rb Shaun Alexander a close second
Hines Ward wr Julio Jones a close second
edit* I stayed in the SEC
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:44 pm to Globetrotter747
Based on those criteria (college + pro success), QB has to be Joe Montana. Only 5 QBs have won NC + Super Bowl, and only two started for both (e.g., Brady was the backup for Michigan in 1997, Bernie Kosar was the backup for the Dallas Cowboys). Those two players are Montana and Ken Stabler. Of the two, Montana is the obvious choice, as he won 4 Super Bowls and was broadly considered the best QB in the league during his prime.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:47 pm to Globetrotter747
Define success.
Joe Namath won national championships and a super bowl. Kenny Stabler did as well. Greats, sure, but would you rate either as the best QB of all time?
Do you mean individual accolades? Peyton Manning comes to mind as a player who had a great run in both, but no Heisman trophies and no national championships.
RB, probably Barry Sanders. He put up absurd numbers at both levels.
WR... Jerry Rice would come to mind, but if memory serves he actually played college at a community college or DII, but his career in the pros would be hard to overcome.
Joe Namath won national championships and a super bowl. Kenny Stabler did as well. Greats, sure, but would you rate either as the best QB of all time?
Do you mean individual accolades? Peyton Manning comes to mind as a player who had a great run in both, but no Heisman trophies and no national championships.
RB, probably Barry Sanders. He put up absurd numbers at both levels.
WR... Jerry Rice would come to mind, but if memory serves he actually played college at a community college or DII, but his career in the pros would be hard to overcome.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:48 pm to Globetrotter747
Peyton
Sanders
Moss?
Only real question is if you knock Moss for playing at Marshall?
You could make a good argument for Julio Jones but he really was underutilized at Bama for how good he is.
Sanders
Moss?
Only real question is if you knock Moss for playing at Marshall?
You could make a good argument for Julio Jones but he really was underutilized at Bama for how good he is.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:48 pm to Globetrotter747
Brady
Sanders
Rice
The end
Sanders
Rice
The end
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:51 pm to skrayper
I’d go Peyton, Barry Sanders, and Jerry Rice if we are taking college and pro into account
Just college: Cam, Herschel, Randy Moss
Just pro: Brady, Jim Brown, Jerry Rice
Just college: Cam, Herschel, Randy Moss
Just pro: Brady, Jim Brown, Jerry Rice
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:54 pm to skrayper
quote:
Do you mean individual accolades?
I meant all around success.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:56 pm to Globetrotter747
quote:
I meant all around success.
I'm just saying, AJ McCarron is probably one of, if not the, most "successful" college QBs of all time. As much I liked him at Alabama, I wouldn't consider him the "best" QB of all time there. Hence why I was trying to get some clarification.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 1:12 pm to Globetrotter747
Success in a team sport doesn't necessarily mean best. Dan Marino was one of the greatest QB's of all time, but he played for teams in both college and the NFL that weren't very great.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 1:22 pm to Globetrotter747
If they weren't having to play against Dick Butkus in the NFL, should we even consider them?
What I mean by that is the game sure has changed over the years. Having to go up against guys like that should count for something right? As a WR for example, going over the middle these days is meh. But doing it back in those days was not for the light hearted and maybe borderline suicide.
I'm not sure how you can really compare the eras. Is Bart Starr the best QB ever due to when he played? Could many modern day QBs really hack it in that league?
Don Hudson created the modern WR basically, and many of the routes he created are still used today. I think even though he played back in the 30s, he still holds the record for most average TDs per game for a WR. Do you give him credit for that, or do you dock him for having an advantage since defenses had to invent ways to stop him?
What I mean by that is the game sure has changed over the years. Having to go up against guys like that should count for something right? As a WR for example, going over the middle these days is meh. But doing it back in those days was not for the light hearted and maybe borderline suicide.
I'm not sure how you can really compare the eras. Is Bart Starr the best QB ever due to when he played? Could many modern day QBs really hack it in that league?
Don Hudson created the modern WR basically, and many of the routes he created are still used today. I think even though he played back in the 30s, he still holds the record for most average TDs per game for a WR. Do you give him credit for that, or do you dock him for having an advantage since defenses had to invent ways to stop him?
Posted on 6/17/20 at 1:27 pm to bigDgator
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Dan Marino was one of the greatest QB's of all time, but he played for teams in both college and the NFL that weren't very great.
He was 33-3 at Pitt. Just to be fair to ol Dan.
Posted on 6/17/20 at 1:28 pm to Globetrotter747
QB: Joe Burrow
RB: Christian McCaffrey
WR: OBJ
RB: Christian McCaffrey
WR: OBJ
Posted on 6/17/20 at 1:47 pm to Globetrotter747
QB- Montana National Championship & 4 Super Bowls
RB- Sanders Heisman and greatest NFL RB of all-time
WR- Rice GOAT NFL WR, and his college #s set records
RB- Sanders Heisman and greatest NFL RB of all-time
WR- Rice GOAT NFL WR, and his college #s set records
Posted on 6/17/20 at 2:11 pm to TigerintheNO
Roger Staubach
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
Best all around- Jim Thorpe
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
Best all around- Jim Thorpe
Posted on 6/17/20 at 2:14 pm to Globetrotter747
How has Tim Brown not come up at all? Won the Heisman as a WR and is a college and pro hall of famer
Posted on 6/17/20 at 2:23 pm to Globetrotter747
Johnny Manziel
Trayveon Williams
Mike Evans
Trayveon Williams
Mike Evans
Posted on 6/17/20 at 2:24 pm to Globetrotter747
Problem with that is how about athletes who were not given a chance until later. Joe Burrow was an almost no body, Johnny Unitas was laughed at initially.
Saying that:
Johnny U
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
Saying that:
Johnny U
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
Posted on 6/17/20 at 2:36 pm to Globetrotter747
College and pro?
Peyton Manning
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
SEC Only
Peyton Manning
Emmitt Smith
Don Hutson
Peyton Manning
Barry Sanders
Jerry Rice
SEC Only
Peyton Manning
Emmitt Smith
Don Hutson
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 2:41 pm
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