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re: Barry Odom(Arkansas DC) declined LSU DC job to stay at Arkansas.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:20 am to momentoftruth87
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:20 am to momentoftruth87
No you don’t. You just have less commits. You’re not very good with how math works, I see.
Add 4 more 3* and what’s going to happen to your ranking?
Add 4 more 3* and what’s going to happen to your ranking?
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Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:29 am to JesusQuintana
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No you don’t. You just have less commits. You’re not very good with how math works, I see.
Add 4 more 3* and what’s going to happen to your ranking?
Lulz. What if the 4 3* we add are higher than 4 of Mizzous?
Do ThE mAtH
Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:28 am to Razorback Reverend
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And Arkansas only has 12 commits to Mizzous 16....
Which means... you only have a higher ranking because of your higher number of commits. While our commits are considered a higher quality even with a lower number of personnel.
So...extending this logic, if Mizzou had only one commit at this point and he was a 4 star, you would concede that MU was out-recruiting Arky because our average ranking was higher even though Arky had 12 total commits?
Hey, I get that it's early but both programs are showing only one four star at this point. If you wanted to make the argument that A&M and Auburn were out-recruiting us with 6 and 5 4-stars respectively you'd have a very good point. Having the same number of 4 stars and fewer recruits doesn't put you ahead just because of the math.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:51 am to CelticTiger
Except at this point, we haven't accepted lower quality recruits to fill the roster....
4 less recruits and rated at a higher quality of player ability.
Hmmm, now we just need a coach who will use those abilities correctly! thanks
4 less recruits and rated at a higher quality of player ability.
Hmmm, now we just need a coach who will use those abilities correctly! thanks
Posted on 7/6/20 at 10:20 am to TrueLefty
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Barry Odom couldn't do that!
I count 5 players from St. Louis in your 2019 class from Odom. The 30s and 40s are where you typically recruited prior to Odom so I'm not sure why you're acting like that's bad.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 11:42 am to Razorback Reverend
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Except at this point, we haven't accepted lower quality recruits to fill the roster....
4 less recruits and rated at a higher quality of player ability.
Frankly, the two are pretty close. Arkansas average taking into account only 3 stars is .8675 MUs three-star average is .8615. So there is a .006 edge to AR in the three-star category. So I still contend that the majority of the .710 gap is a function of the smaller denominator for Arkansas giving greater weight to the one 4 star that both teams have (and yes your 4 star is slightly higher - a .004 difference).
Bottom line, Mizzou fans are realists. We're not going to get a lot of 4 stars and almost certainly no 5 stars. Maybe Arkansas will; but that remains to be seen. So we're happy to have a good group of 3 stars on board this early in the process. If Drink can do any good with them, then maybe our 2022 class will have a few more 4 stars.
The big baws chuckle at an MU - Arky pissing contest. That's fine. Can't say I disagree. Like I say we're realists. We've had a couple of good years with our 3 star rosters in the past. What choice do we have other than to try to build the program one step at a time.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 1:43 pm to CelticTiger
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So there is a .006 edge to AR
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yes your 4 star is slightly higher - a .004 difference).
So, we agree... We have the edge and are higher in the rankings... Thanks!
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:54 pm to Razorback Reverend
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So there is a .006 edge to AR
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yes your 4 star is slightly higher - a .004 difference).
So, we agree... We have the edge and are higher in the rankings... Thanks!
Now how could I argue those monster margins and maintain any credibility?
Posted on 7/6/20 at 3:56 pm to gohogs141
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I count 5 players from St. Louis in your 2019 class from Odom. The 30s and 40s are where you typically recruited prior to Odom so I'm not sure why you're acting like that's bad.
Odom couldn't get better recruits from St. Louis and ESL. Some of the St. Louis schools and ESL blocked Odom and Mizzou from recruiting their players. Now it is open to Drinkwitz and Mizzou! recruiting classes from 30s to 40s is not good for Mizzou when the State of Missouri have good recruits and those should be in the 20s and up. Odom failed to make any improvement on recruiting and that was on him! Now Drinkwitz is already ahead of what Odom couldn't get it don at this time at any of his recruiting class when he was the HC at Mizzou. Two key things hurt mizzou. Odom failed as a HC and is a bad recruiter. Drinkwitz on the other hand is showing a much better results as a recruiter and have proven to be a good HC at Appalachian State with lesser talents and gone 12-1 in his first year as a HC ever. That is impressive! Now at Mizzou he should be a huge upgrade over Odom because he has a proven HC record and is recruiting a lot better at Mizzou than Odom have done when he was the HC at Mizzou.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 7/6/20 at 4:33 pm to TrueLefty
What we have are two unknowns as SEC head coaches.
One landed in a nest on the ground group of talent at a small school and the players got it done.
The other is a first time HC at this level who is well respected and understands what SEC talent looks like and has hired solid assistant coaches.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
One landed in a nest on the ground group of talent at a small school and the players got it done.
The other is a first time HC at this level who is well respected and understands what SEC talent looks like and has hired solid assistant coaches.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 4:48 pm to Clark14
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What we have are two unknowns as SEC head coaches.
One landed in a nest on the ground group of talent at a small school and the players got it done.
The other is a first time HC at this level who is well respected and understands what SEC talent looks like and has hired solid assistant coaches.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
If you put Odom in that situation he would have lost more than 3 games and maybe 5 games. That is what he is. not a good HC and Drinkwitz never been a HC before and did well against North Carolina that has a well respected and very good HC and he lost to Drinkwitz! Then you have Muschamp at South Carolina who have a very good defense and beat Georgia and he once again beat another good team that just didn't get it done. Drinkwitz had lesser talents to begin with and just took control of a program he knows nothing about and the same for the players. He did a fantastic job running his offense and getting the players know his system and making what ever changes/adjustments against teams he never coached before and was able to do it without much trouble. That is a very good HC. Mizzou got lucky that no top program went after him. No Arkansas was not a top program which he turned down the job to go to Mizzou.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 4:56 pm to DuckTalesLOL
Good for him to honor a commitment.
Idk how any coach feels like they’re going to go farther coaching at Arkansas than LSU, but right on.
Idk how any coach feels like they’re going to go farther coaching at Arkansas than LSU, but right on.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 5:52 pm to TrueLefty
We had a high school coach,it didn't go well.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:02 pm to TrueLefty
Truelefty... Are you a savant, Aspergers, Autistic?
Holy Fricking Wall of Text Batman! You say virtually the same thing over and over ad Naseam...
In other words, DAMN DUDE!
Holy Fricking Wall of Text Batman! You say virtually the same thing over and over ad Naseam...
In other words, DAMN DUDE!
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:15 pm to Clark14
And you have one as a DC.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 7:34 pm to McMillan
Nope.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 7:35 pm to Razorback Reverend
It makes you wonder if he's trying to convince himself or someone else?
Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:53 pm to Razorback Reverend
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Truelefty... Are you a savant, Aspergers, Autistic?
Holy Fricking Wall of Text Batman! You say virtually the same thing over and over ad Naseam...
In other words, DAMN DUDE!
You guys keep trying to prove that Arkansas is better than Mizzou in football! That is why I keep bringing up the facts over and over to keep reminding each Arkansas fan that posted something to prove them wrong! Also some Arkansas fans did not read my latest post and so they posted similar post what other Arkansas fans posted earlier. This is why I will keep posting when an arkansas post any new comments that I can prove them wrong once again!
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 7/6/20 at 8:55 pm to TrueLefty
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You guys keep trying to prove that Arkansas is better than Mizzou in football! That is why I keep bringing up the facts over and over to keep reminding each Arkansas fan that posted something to prove them wrong!
Posted on 7/6/20 at 9:26 pm to TrueLefty
Dude, the past 8 years we have been a chit program without any direction whatsoever other than down! We are not absolutely stupid brah! And, what Pinkle did with Mizzou was incredible. And what Odom brings as a DC is also incredible. I dont give a rip about his recruiting. We have recruiters on staff to do that man. And what Petrino did with Arkansas was incredible but. Top 5 in the nation...
We know where we are, beginning anew. But our recruiting has never been under Mizzou with a true HC.. (John Smile Smith doesnt count, lol).
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