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Bama's 2016 team vs SEC NC winners from the last 30 years
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:06 pm
Now, Bama fans I gotta get your take... Which of these teams in the SEC NC list (see LINK) would Bama's 2016 team have beaten? My opinion is the 2016 Bama defense was probably better than the 1992 edition. Jalen Hurts was just good enough to get it done when needed and damn near pulled off the win against Watson and crew. What say you?
Where does the 2016 team rank against even your own NC winners in your opinion?
Where does the 2016 team rank against even your own NC winners in your opinion?
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 5:08 pm
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:17 pm to CFFreak
IMO 2016 is the best Saban team
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:20 pm to CFFreak
With Kiffin and Eddie Jackson it was the best team from 2006 Florida to 2017 Bama IMO
Marlon Humphrey, Jackson, and Minkah are all-pro players
Josh Jacobs is a pro-bowler
Johnathan Allen, Reuben Foster, Levi Wallace, Calvin Ridley, Oj Howard, Rashaan Evans, Cam Robinson, Bradley Bozeman, Da’Ron Payne, JK Scott, and Ryan Anderson are NFL starters
Robert Foster, Anthony Averett, Cam Sims, Deshaun Hand, Shaun Dion Hamilton, Gehrig Dieter, Ross Peirsbacher and Ronnie Harrison are role players
Marlon Humphrey, Jackson, and Minkah are all-pro players
Josh Jacobs is a pro-bowler
Johnathan Allen, Reuben Foster, Levi Wallace, Calvin Ridley, Oj Howard, Rashaan Evans, Cam Robinson, Bradley Bozeman, Da’Ron Payne, JK Scott, and Ryan Anderson are NFL starters
Robert Foster, Anthony Averett, Cam Sims, Deshaun Hand, Shaun Dion Hamilton, Gehrig Dieter, Ross Peirsbacher and Ronnie Harrison are role players
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:25 pm to CFFreak
I think it was our best team, even with a limited freshman Jalen.
Best defense we've had in the Saban era IMHO, and that includes 2011.
- Jonathan Allen (1st)
- Daron Payne (1st)
- Dalvin Tomlinson (2nd)
- Ryan Anderson (2nd)
- Tim Williams (3rd)
- Da'Shawn Hand (4th)
- Reuben Foster (1st)
- Rashaan Evans (1st)
- Shaun Dion Hamilton (6th)
- Ronnie Harrison (3rd)
- Minkah Fitzpatrick (1st)
- Marlon Humphrey (1st)
- Eddie Jackson (4th)
- Levi Wallace (UDFA, NFL Starter)
Wins vs End of Year Ranked Teams
- beat USC by 52 (10-3, #3)
- beat Western Ky by 28 (11-3, #23)
- beat Tennessee by 39 (9-4, #22)
- beat LSU by 10 (8-4, #13)
- beat Auburn by 18 (8-5, #24)
- beat Florida by 38 (9-4, #14)
- beat Washington by 17 (12-2, #4)
Beat 11 teams that went to bowl games (USC, WKU, UK, Arky, VOLS, A&M, LSU, MSU, Aub, UF, Wash). If we'd finished the Clemson game we would have beaten #2, #3 and #4 and a total of 12 bowl teams and 8 teams ranked in the Final AP Poll - all but 1 by double digits.
Eddie Jackson breaking his leg and the Kiffin stuff probably cost us finalizing one of the greatest seasons of all time.
Best defense we've had in the Saban era IMHO, and that includes 2011.
- Jonathan Allen (1st)
- Daron Payne (1st)
- Dalvin Tomlinson (2nd)
- Ryan Anderson (2nd)
- Tim Williams (3rd)
- Da'Shawn Hand (4th)
- Reuben Foster (1st)
- Rashaan Evans (1st)
- Shaun Dion Hamilton (6th)
- Ronnie Harrison (3rd)
- Minkah Fitzpatrick (1st)
- Marlon Humphrey (1st)
- Eddie Jackson (4th)
- Levi Wallace (UDFA, NFL Starter)
Wins vs End of Year Ranked Teams
- beat USC by 52 (10-3, #3)
- beat Western Ky by 28 (11-3, #23)
- beat Tennessee by 39 (9-4, #22)
- beat LSU by 10 (8-4, #13)
- beat Auburn by 18 (8-5, #24)
- beat Florida by 38 (9-4, #14)
- beat Washington by 17 (12-2, #4)
Beat 11 teams that went to bowl games (USC, WKU, UK, Arky, VOLS, A&M, LSU, MSU, Aub, UF, Wash). If we'd finished the Clemson game we would have beaten #2, #3 and #4 and a total of 12 bowl teams and 8 teams ranked in the Final AP Poll - all but 1 by double digits.
Eddie Jackson breaking his leg and the Kiffin stuff probably cost us finalizing one of the greatest seasons of all time.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:29 pm to atomic31
That may have been the best defense ever in college football but the offense was too one dimensional. The passing tds and yards were mostly jet sweeps and quick outs. Hurts was a true freshman and was too often afraid to pull the trigger downfield and when he did he was erratic.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:30 pm to CFFreak
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Bama's 2016 team vs SEC NC winners from the last 30 years
Now, Bama fans I gotta get your take... Which of these teams in the SEC NC list (see LINK) would Bama's 2016 team have beaten? My opinion is the 2016 Bama defense was probably better than the 1992 edition. Jalen Hurts was just good enough to get it done when needed and damn near pulled off the win against Watson and crew. What say you?
Where does the 2016 team rank against even your own NC winners in your opinion?
Jalen scored and gave Alabama the lead the last time he touched the ball. Many will point out the 3 and outs to excuse the defenses performance in that game.
But I think the fact that Clemson was able to run 99 offensive plays and not hold a single time against probably one of the best front 7 was probably the biggest factor.
What a well disciplined Clemson team that was. Only 3 penalties the entire game for a total of 35 years.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:32 pm to 3down10
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Many will point out the 3 and outs to excuse the defenses performance in that game.
But I think the fact that Clemson was able to run 99 offensive plays and not hold a single time against probably one of the best front 7 was probably the biggest factor.
yes. That was the biggest factor. Even a great defense will tire when the offense keeps going 3 and out. 99 plays was entirely too many to give a good Clemson offense.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:39 pm to BLG
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yes. That was the biggest factor. Even a great defense will tire when the offense keeps going 3 and out. 99 plays was entirely too many to give a good Clemson offense.
Yea - they had only scored 7 pts at the 8-minute mark of the 3rd quarter. Then Bo broke his leg, we just offensively self-destructed (granted, they had some great defensive players) and they started grinding our defense down with play after play after play. And on top of that, they had one of the greatest collegiate big game QBs of all-time who found away.
It is definitely the most difficult near-miss of the Saban era, because that team was great and was on the verge of something special.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:41 pm to CFFreak
Ain’t no body going to beat that team.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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they had only scored 7 pts at the 8-minute mark of the 3rd quarter.
gee. I had forgotten about that but you are right
I think Alabama went 3 and out 6 or 7 times, then 3 more 5 plays or less.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I'm not a big believer in Sagarin, but he has 2016 Bama at 6 in the BCS/CFP era fwiw LINK
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:47 pm to Mithridates6
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I'm not a big believer in Sagarin, but he has 2016 Bama at 6 fwiw LINK
Yea - they pretty much dominated a very deep and hard schedule and lost on the last play of the game to a great Clemson team.
2011 is just kind of a hard comparative for me because the SEC changed so much so quickly after that year offensively. That defense would have been fine in any era, but I don't think it was as dynamic and skilled at all 3 levels at the 2016 one was.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 5:50 pm to BLG
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I think Alabama went 3 and out 6 or 7 times, then 3 more 5 plays or less.
We led 24-14 when Bo Scarbrough broke his leg late in the 3rd. Our next 3 drives went: 4 plays, 3 plays, 3 plays.
Our first 7 drives of the 2nd half went 4 plays, 3 plays, 3 plays, 4 plays (TD), 4 plays, 3 plays, 3 plays - then we had the 6 play Hurts TD drive.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Eddie Jackson breaking his leg and the Kiffin stuff probably cost us finalizing one of the greatest seasons of all time.
This.
Shame that happened. Prior to the Clemson game, fivethirtyeight had that team ranked as the GOAT using their statistical metric. Definitely the best team to not get a NC.
And some of our fans like to shite on Hurts (BLG), but Kiffin used him just about perfectly that season. Hurts set the all time Bama record for TD's and had the second most total yards ever for a single season in 2016.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:39 pm to CFFreak
I think that 16 team when fully healthy and Kiffen at OC, beats all other Saban teams at Bama.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 10:56 pm to remaster916
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I think that 16 team when fully healthy and Kiffen at OC, beats all other Saban teams at Bama.
I don't think you are wrong. Saban firing Kiffin before the CG was the biggest shortfall of his coaching career. A 60% Kiffin is better than anything Sark could have conjured up.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:02 pm to remaster916
2016 is Nick Saban's best team top to bottom. Put Tua or Jalen as a Jr/Sr as the QB Bama beats Clemson by 2-3 TDs.
In addition to the number of 3 and outs in the game, getting two fumbles in Clemson territory and walking away with 3 points was another killer. Renfroe won that game not only by his receiving TD, but preventing a scoop and score.
In addition to the number of 3 and outs in the game, getting two fumbles in Clemson territory and walking away with 3 points was another killer. Renfroe won that game not only by his receiving TD, but preventing a scoop and score.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:06 pm to Che Boludo
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I don't think you are wrong. Saban firing Kiffin before the CG was the biggest shortfall of his coaching career. A 60% Kiffin is better than anything Sark could have conjured up.
Eh did you see Kifin's play calling against Washington? He had checked out. He was supposedly calling plays they had not practiced in months. Sark was in a losing situation almost no matter what.
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:37 pm to CFFreak
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Where does the 2016 team rank against even your own NC winners in your opinion?
Reg season/SECCG, that 2016 team was the best of the bunch. Probably the second GOAT SEC team behind 2019 LSU.
The team that showed up in the playoffs... not so much. Eddie Jackson's leg and Lane Kiffin checking out killed the whole team's mentality. Completely different team in the postseason.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 6:18 am to BamaDude06
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Eh did you see Kifin's play calling against Washington? He had checked out. He was supposedly calling plays they had not practiced in months. Sark was in a losing situation almost no matter what.
Yep
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