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re: Bama Trustees Trying to End UAB Football After 2016

Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:12 am to
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22988 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:12 am to
Little Bear crosses the line
the evil bear bryant jr strikes again
UAB points to Bryant JR.
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Athletics Committee Chairman John McMahon said he thought the project would "get done and get done quickly.

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At last Thursday's board meeting in Tuscaloosa the project was pronounced dead.


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UAB supporters tend to point angry fingers at Paul W. Bryant Jr., president pro tempore of the Board of Trustees and son of UA's late, Hall of Fame football coach Paul "Bear" Bryant. Blazer fans are correct to be suspicious of Bryant Jr.'s motives; he long has been seen as an impediment to UAB's aspirations in the sports arena.


But by all means, continue to believe he is not anti-uab.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13629 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:16 am to
FREE UAB
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:16 am to
yeah I don't get this either. all of the UAB Football talk is mind boggling. Only retards or haters of U of Alabama would be pro UAB football.

UAB/Bham could build a world class basketball arena for $30 million. Promote the shite out of it. Be the only basketball school in a sea of football schools.

I mean if they did that and found some success, their basketball program could easily be on the same level as say Memphis. that would bring the school more visibility(the biggest reason to have an athletics program) than a successful football team(because this state and region is all-sec/Bama/Auburn). It would also be easier to maintain financially.

look at what the FEDEX Forum did for that program, and for the city of Memphis.

But everyone in Alabama have their own interests to satisfy. Auburn fans will not take off their Orange and blue sunglasses in order to look at a problem practically. If it will make the university of Alabama look bad, they go all in. ignoring the actual benefits of a hard decision.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 10:19 am
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15717 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:16 am to
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But by all means, continue to believe he is not anti-uab.



Its hilarious you think this.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:18 am to
It is pathetic when gumps try and deny that UA actively works diligently and has for a decade to insure UAB football is not successful.

As I said yesterday, it is one of two things.

Ignorance or lying.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:18 am to
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UAB/Bham could build a world class basketball arena and promote the shite out of it. Be the only basketball school in a sea of football schools.


If UAB didn't have football, basketball would become irrelevant.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:19 am to
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BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- Plans for an on-campus football stadium at UAB will not be included when the University of Alabama System Board of Trustees meet Thursday and Friday in Tuscaloosa.

UAB Undergraduate Student Government President Brad Watts sent a memo to UAB students on Monday afternoon that he had been "informed that the UAB Stadium Project is not on the agenda" for the meetings.

Several other sources confirmed they have heard the same news, even though the official agenda has not been released to the public.

School officials, who declined to comment Monday night, presented preliminary stadium plans to the board's Athletic Committee during its September meeting in Tuscaloosa. It detailed some key aspects of the $75 million proposed horseshoe-shaped stadium, which called for 27,511 permanent seats with lawn seating of approximately 2,500.

The presentation was met with enthusiasm at the time from then-Athletic Committee chairman John McMahon. McMahon said during the meeting that the board was "looking forward to you coming back in November or as early as you can to get this project on the road." He added after the meeting he felt it would "get done and get done quickly."


Bama refuses to even discuss letting UAB have a stadium. They are pathetic.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22988 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:20 am to
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Are the BOT votes made public? It would be interesting to see if one man with one vote could single-handedly prevent UAB from doing what it wants.



Never came to a vote. It was kept off the agenda.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28441 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:21 am to
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It is pathetic when gumps try and deny that UA actively works diligently and has for a decade to insure UAB football is not successful.

As I said yesterday, it is one of two things.

Ignorance or lying.


I just don't see the motive for the Alabama brass to actively seek to cut the UAB program down?

How much in Alabama's athletic funding, specifically for football, would actually be siphoned away and dumped into the Blazer program? With the amount of money Alabama spends on its juggernaut program, would they even notice?

I just don't get the motive. I mean, I can see the evidence, but I just don't get why the Alabama administration would seek to hamper, and possibly eventually destroy, the UAB program.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:22 am to
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"This facility, in addition to providing an attractive and competitive athletic venue for the UAB community, is an important entertainment amenity for Birmingham and the seven-county region as a whole," McManus said as part of a statement released by the BBA.

McManus added in the statement that "UAB remains the economic engine for the region and we are confident that the addition of this new stadium will enhance that position."

Another sign of community support centered on the 27 suites expected to be available to corporations or individuals. The on-campus stadium feasibility study estimates that 80 percent of the suites would be sold by the first year. A source close to the proposal said that university officials already have five-year commitments for all 27 suites.

The price of the suites is $30,000 for a one-year commitment, $25,000 per year for a three-year commitment and $20,000 per year for a five-year commitment. In addition, each suite will accommodate 20 season tickets at a cost of $150 each.

The USGA passed a resolution 22-0 that the student body supports the new stadium.

The feasibility report also details the proposed financial plan. It includes an operating revenue projection ranging from $5,782,723 the first year to $6,875,635 in the 10th year. Operating expense projections range from $835,000 the first year to $1,089,486 the 10th year. All projections are based on a six-game home schedule for the Blazers.



And lookie here, the stadium was expected to be profitable from the start and they had the donors lined up and the commitments lined up.

UA decided it would rather spend more of its own money to subsidize UAB football than they would want to let UAB football do what it needed to actually turn a profit and grow their program.

As I have said - it is pathetic.

And even worse is the lying gumps trying to deny it.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 10:23 am
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:22 am to
What's that AUM all time record? Those kids are dying to play. Auburn scared.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:22 am to
what?!

people here are arguing that if UAB football was good, people would come.

Are you saying regardless of how good UAB basketball is people won't come and get excited about it? All because they don't have a football team?

I see the Uconn logo by your name. You a fan? Is Uconn's football team possible without basketball? The success they had. And don't ignore the fact that the only football program in Connecticut is Uconn now.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22988 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:23 am to
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Its hilarious you think this.


Is it really? I have cited multiple sources that all point to him. Can you find one shred of information that has ever suggested he is supportive of UAB on an level?
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:24 am to
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Are you saying regardless of how good UAB basketball is people won't come and get excited about it? All because they don't have a football team?


Yes, they would be put in a conference with Samford or worse, and nobody would give a shite if they were good or not.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22988 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:26 am to
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I just don't get the motive. I mean, I can see the evidence, but I just don't get why the Alabama administration would seek to hamper, and possibly eventually destroy, the UAB program.


It is ridiculous. That is why I cannot understand why some UA fans here continue to defend the indefensible. UAB would never be a threat to UA. It is just petty and beneath them.
I have not seen very many non-UA fans think they are in the right on this.
Posted by GIbson05
Member since Feb 2009
4318 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:28 am to
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If UAB didn't have football, basketball would become irrelevant.

You're retarded. There are plenty of schools that make the tournament every year but dont have football teams. Which do you think is better for UAB. A football team that is a one of the worst in the country or a basketball program in the tournament
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9829 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:28 am to
If petty trolling and rivalry could be removed from the discussion, nobody would agree that it would be a wise use of funds. You don't have to be a UAB business grad to understand that $75M for football stadium for a program barely hanging onto FBS status is a terrible financial decision.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:30 am to
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. Which do you think is better for UAB. A football team that is a one of the worst in the country or a basketball program in the tournament




An improving football team, with a prestigious basketball program in a relevant conference.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:31 am to
I still think the city of Birmingham and UAB would be smarter to partner/invest in a basketball arena, over a football stadium. BJCC is a dump. Never been to Bartow arena, but I'm sure it could be better.

more non-UAB events possible like concerts, professional sporting events. year round use.

It would be cheaper, and allows you to invest more in the school.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28441 posts
Posted on 11/6/14 at 10:32 am to
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It is ridiculous. That is why I cannot understand why some UA fans here continue to defend the indefensible. UAB would never be a threat to UA. It is just petty and beneath them.
I have not seen very many non-UA fans think they are in the right on this.


It is hard for me to imagine a scenario in which UAB would ever take any asset away from Alabama, be it a prized recruit, funding, contracts with outside businesses to sponsor the program, etc.

I live in New Orleans. You technically could compare the Alabama/UAB situation to that of LSU/Tulane, but Tulane has a much larger endowment than LSU, a better med school than LSU, a better law school than LSU, and has been established since the late 1800s.

Still, to this day, it is hard for me to envision a situation where Tulane, even as a private school, causes an "injury" to LSU's athletic program, especially considering the existence of the Tiger Athletic Foundation.

The only conceptual reason I could think of as to why the Alabama Board would deny the construction of a new, on-campus stadium for UAB would be its returns: UAB probably isn't gonna put asses in the seats, among other things.

It's not outside the realm of possibility that this is strictly a business decision, but the evidence suggests that there is some protectionism of the Alabama brand going on.
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