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re: BAMA football stuff - Ranking opposing QB's Bama is facing edition

Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by ALcapone
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:01 pm to
guess what, Craig Krenzel, who yall are saying is an average QB, beat the mighty Miami Hurricanes who were absolutely stacked on both sides of the ball, he's better than you are giving him credit for.

also, he didnt win the BCS MVP because of his 7-21 passing effort with 2 ints. He won because he had 19 carries for 81 yards and 2 rushing TDs.
This post was edited on 4/22/12 at 3:02 pm
Posted by T Rey WI
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:02 pm to
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188 yards per game 16TD in 14 games. Those are game manager numbers. Not top 3 SEC QBs. Deal with it.
DING DING DING
WE HAVE A WINNER


Rickdaddy does have a point. A good QB would have to be able to make longer passes like smash routes rather than just screen passes. There is no way a good coach would ever put the game plan on the shoulders of an average game manager QB when they were facing one of the best defenses in the nation in the championship game.

By all of Rickdaddy's "Deal with it" logic, AJ is nothing more than a game manager so there is no way that the LSU defense was worth a damn if that average QB could pick them apart like he did.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:03 pm to
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guess what, Craig Krenzel, who yall are saying is an average QB, beat the mighty Miami Hurricanes who were absolutely stacked on both sides of the ball, he's better than you are giving him credit for. also, he didnt win the BCS MVP because of his 7-21 passing effort with 2 ints. He won because he had 19 carries for 81 yards and 2 rushing TDs.



He is a qb who had a very avg game. You said avg qb don't win MVP awards. You have been weighed and measured and have been found wanting!
This post was edited on 4/22/12 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:08 pm to
So you think AJ mcarron is a top 3 qb? His stats don't say that. Sooner or later you are what your stats say you are !
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:09 pm to
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also, he didnt win the BCS MVP because of his 7-21 passing effort with 2 ints. He won because he had 19 carries for 81 yards and 2 rushing TDs.


Who cares why he won it? He was, at best, an average quarterback during that season. There's no reason to argue otherwise just to fit your argument for McCarron.
Posted by T Rey WI
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:09 pm to
I was simply in agreement with you that LSU's defense must suck.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:10 pm to
Did you not see his game on nov 5th? Less than 50% completions and 120 yards of passing that wasn't swing passes.
Also he played well on jan9th. I've never said he wasn't good. Just that he is a game manager. Why is that such a slap in the face to you gunts? He has done everything asked of him.
Posted by T Rey WI
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:11 pm to
AJ had a very good year as a 1st year starter. He showed later in the year potential to be much more. Attempting to say he IS a top QB has yet to be proven. I hope he proves that to be the case this year but time will tell.
Posted by T Rey WI
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:13 pm to
I was just having fun using your own arguments to poke at you
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:16 pm to
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He showed later in the year potential to be much more.


In the bowl game the receivers had to make some acrobatic catches. But the important thing is he placed the ball where either his guy caught it or it was incomplete...not intercepted. This is important to Saban and is why I think the O will open it up a bit more in 2012.
Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:17 pm to
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He was, at best, an average quarterback during that season. There's no reason to argue otherwise just to fit your argument for McCarron


he was better than average based on his accomplishments. yall can sit here and say oh he was average, but he's sitting at home with a ring and an MVP award that say differently.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:19 pm to
We should just accept the fact that McCarron can't beat a team when it's put on his shoulders. Oh, wait...

Meanwhile, the wannabe Roethlisberger has never started a SEC game.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:19 pm to
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yall can sit here and say oh he was average


It's not 'ya'll', it's his actual performance through the year. I think it's agreed he stepped up in bowl game.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:20 pm to
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he was better than average based on his accomplishments. yall can sit here and say oh he was average, but he's sitting at home with a ring and an MVP award that say differently.


Neiko Thorpe won MVP in some games and has a ring. What's your point?
Posted by T Rey WI
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:21 pm to
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I think it's agreed he stepped up in bowl game.


In truth, he stepped his play up a little each week after the 1st LSU game. The last step was just the biggest one with more time between games to prep.
Posted by ALcapone
Member since Nov 2010
3828 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:26 pm to
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Neiko Thorpe won MVP in some games and has a ring. What's your point?


is Thorpe a QB of a BCS Championship winning team?

My point is Krenzel has earned the accolades that prove him to be better than average and for you to sit back and dismiss his accomplishments because you think it proves that AJ McCarron is just average is stupid.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:26 pm to
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quote:
I think it's agreed he stepped up in bowl game.


In truth, he stepped his play up a little each week after the 1st LSU game. The last step was just the biggest one with more time between games to prep.


MSU (163 yds) , GSU (190 yds) and AU (184 yds)?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48283 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:26 pm to
Yes LSU's defense sucked because a qb with a month to prepare had a decent game against us. Hell Geno Smith must be all world if Mcarron is great. I guess his Nov.5th game is just erased from your memory. Damn you gunts have shut out the fact that you went 1-1 against LSU last year.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:28 pm to
Meh, let the fapfest continue. To the OP, for a way too early pick, I'd say Wilson, Bray then Robinson, taking into account known quantities only.
This post was edited on 4/22/12 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48283 posts
Posted on 4/22/12 at 3:28 pm to
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AJ had a very good year as a 1st year starter. He showed later in the year potential to be much more. Attempting to say he IS a top QB has yet to be proven. I hope he proves that to be the case this year but time will tell.


He had an avg year. Not good not bad. Avg 16tds in 14 games isn't good, it's meh. Had any other teams' qb's put up the exact same stats as AJ , you Bama fans would be laughing at the poster who said the qb was top 3.
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