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Bama fans, why didn't Ray Perkins work out as HC?

Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:34 pm
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 4:34 pm
It has been so long ago, I don't remember just what happened.

Was it the Bear's shadow?
Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:12 pm to
I mean, Perkins didn’t really win anywhere as a head coach except at Alabama. He had one winning season in the NFL (9-7) but at Alabama we weren’t winning at the level expected. 4 years with one 10 win season has gotten several coaches fired in Tuscaloosa
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:16 pm to
He coached Alabama to their first losing season since before Bryant.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4545 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:27 pm to
We just had a lot of bad luck those seasons along with injuries. He was 32-15-1 and 11 of those losses were by 7 points or less and in one of those we got f**ked royally at State College. I know we’re not playing horseshoes or throwing hand grenades but you could pretty much expect that his teams were going to compete.

And he left for a deal any coach … Saban, Kelly, Kiffin, anyone you can name … would have jumped at in a millisecond, total control … sideline and front office … of an NFL franchise.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:34 pm to
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The Alabama football program was one of the most dominant in the nation in the 1960s and '70s.

Perkins accepted the challenge of replacing Bryant in December of 1982. Immediately, Bryant's wishbone offense was out; a pro-style offense was in.

Another controversial move came when Perkins had the tower from which Bryant had long observed practices, as much a symbol of the former coach as anything on campus, taken down.

Taking over for Bryant also meant taking over a Bryant schedule, no small task. Today, top college football programs generally face no more than one major non-conference opponent each year. In four seasons at UA, Perkins faced 11 — four battles with Penn State, two each against Georgia Tech and Boston College and one-time tangles with Notre Dame, Ohio State and Texas A&M. Alabama went 5-6 in those games.

Perkins' teams earned a bowl berth in three of his four years, winning all three, but did not take a Southeastern Conference title.

Perkins had just completed arguably his best season at Alabama, a 10-3 campaign, and had primed the program with some elite talents when he decided the time had come to step down.

In December of 1986, Perkins pledged to Tampa Bay Buccaneers owner Hugh Culverhouse to return to the NFL. Assistants said they've never heard him discuss specifics about why he left.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 5:36 pm
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:35 pm to
Too many losses to Auburn
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:35 pm to
He had good players.

Doug Flutie beat them.

There was bound to be a down cycle after 25 years of Coach Bryant.

I don’t think Coach Perkins enjoyed the nonsense associated with the job.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:40 pm to
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I don’t think Coach Perkins enjoyed the nonsense associated with the job.


I think this was the biggest thing. I attended football camp at Alabama his last season. He looked like he would have rather been in the pits of hell than at Alabama football camp.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:41 pm to
I'm old school, but I miss when coaches used to dress like this on the sidelines.



Posted by makersmark1
earth
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Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:48 pm to
I’m an Auburn grad/fan, but I would say the spotlight at Alabama as the head football coach may be one of the most intense situations in sports.

After Coach Bryant, it looked tough. After Saban, it looks even tougher.

Whoever has the job will make lifetime money so I don’t feel sorry for them.

I don’t feel sorry for any of the SEC coaches.

All will be fired IF they don’t win enough.

Winning enough varies from program to program.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20030 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

Doug Flutie beat them.


I was at the game.

Who was the Alabama back who got hurt in that game or maybe the next week?

Goode?
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
18263 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 5:50 pm to
He did work out, but they offered him the job at Tampa Bay as well as part ownership of the Buccaneers so he took it. The owner was a BAMA man.

He was 32-15-1 at BAMA. Had some bad injury luck in '84.

Played a pretty tough out of conf schedule when he was there. Ohio State, Penn State, aTm, Boston College (Flutie), Notre Dame.

Posted by entmd2002
Lufkin, TX
Member since Dec 2010
377 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 6:58 pm to
Good stuff. I’d rather be at the gates of hell than at an Alabama football camp!!
Posted by Draino54
Member since Mar 2022
994 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:37 pm to
The comment by one Bama booster was “if Ray heard someone say something nice about him, he’d call them up & piss them off”
Posted by FlyDownTheField83
Auburn AL
Member since Dec 2021
1339 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

we got f$$ked royally at State College


I remember that game and Bama did get $crewed by those refs.

What I remember even better was Perkins being interviewed right after the game, you could see the white-hot fury in his eyes, and he was almost shaking with anger, he said, “That was a crime worse than murder!” referring to the horrendous call in the game against Bama.
Posted by coldbeerfan
Orange Beach RTR Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
1504 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 7:52 pm to
I was at the Iron Bowl in Birmingham when a bigger and faster Pat Dye coached Auburn team lost to Bama and Perkins. The thing I remember most about the game was a slow white boy running back named Paul Ott Carruth ran all over Auburn’s defense that day.
Posted by 1loyalbamafan
alabama
Member since Mar 2015
3599 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 9:41 pm to
Kerry Goode. He was running thru them like crazy until he got hurt. Changed the 2nd half and really our entire season. He played in the NFL but never regained his speed from his injury.
This post was edited on 9/18/25 at 9:42 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17068 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:19 pm to
You never never wanna be the guy to follow THE GUY.

It’s common knowledge yet shite for brains like Kalen DeHarsin keep thinking they can do it.
Posted by Bamabelle in GA
marietta
Member since Sep 2010
125 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 10:27 pm to
I’ll never forget his first game. He was wearing a baby blue shirt with a white collar and he ran out with the team. After a lifetime of watching Coach Bryant meander slowly to the sideline….I cried like a baby. Perkins was abrasive and made unpopular decisions, seemingly for no reason. It was a difficult time.
Posted by Nasty_Canasta
Your Mom’s house
Member since Dec 2024
3303 posts
Posted on 9/18/25 at 11:01 pm to
A little off the OP’s topic but I read the bio about Perkins. Pretty interesting journey that guy had. He was warned that football could cause serious damage to his body in high school because he was missing a vertebrae and he sat out one season at Bama due to injury but he continued on. I give props to the guy for following his dream and not letting anything get in his way. Regardless of how you view his tenure as a coach.

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