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re: Auburn Football- A program on the rise?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:46 am to Irons Puppet
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:46 am to Irons Puppet
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AU will be back very soon with the right coach.
The next coach is unlikely to be that coach. The environment is too toxic to get anyone that's top shelf. The next guy won't be the guy, but he might be the guy who gets the program in good enough shape to eventually hire the guy.
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:47 am to Irons Puppet
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How many SECC does UGA have the last 20 years?
The same as Auburn (3). Your point on that is unclear.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:49 am to Irons Puppet
quote:I'm not into "lists", that's your gig.
How many program are there where the AD makes the decision on who the next coach will be? List them in the SEC.
I'd just think a coach would like to know who his immediate supervisor will be and have an idea of how he'll run the department, etc. Maybe it doesn't matter in he least to coaching candidates?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:52 am to VoxDawg
It's been said that Auburn "self-recruits." I don't know about that.
But they certainly self-advertise, airing their dirty laundry more than any team in college football. Censorship might work, but that would only cover Lee County.
Any worthwhile college coach will either demand a premium salary to coach there, be headed toward retirement, or come with significant baggage.
But they certainly self-advertise, airing their dirty laundry more than any team in college football. Censorship might work, but that would only cover Lee County.
Any worthwhile college coach will either demand a premium salary to coach there, be headed toward retirement, or come with significant baggage.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:54 am to VoxDawg
If AU can hire Hugh Freeze as HC, then that is the way to go. Nick will be gone in 4-5 more years so that will help AU as well. UGA and Kirby are making it hard on recruiting those really good HS players from Georgia as well as Nick and Bama doing the same.
Get the high dollar boosters together and allow them to select the HC. Lowder did a great job with Coach Dye.
Adding UT and OU to the already difficult SEC is going to make the job of every HC even more difficult.
I have been trying to bury the Barn since 1958 but no matter how many shovels I buy from Home Depot, that bunch just want stay buried.
Get the high dollar boosters together and allow them to select the HC. Lowder did a great job with Coach Dye.
Adding UT and OU to the already difficult SEC is going to make the job of every HC even more difficult.
I have been trying to bury the Barn since 1958 but no matter how many shovels I buy from Home Depot, that bunch just want stay buried.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:00 am to RT1941
You don't have an answer or will not admit. You have no list, because it doesn't exist at this level . Very few HCs in the SEC really answer to the AD. You think Saban answers to Byrne ?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:03 am to Irons Puppet
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Very few HCs in the SEC really answer to the AD. You think Saban answers to Byrne ?
Do you think most coaches have a the same pull as Saban? The damn governor of Alabama doesn't have power over Saban.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:16 am to Starkvingard
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Do you think most coaches have a the same pull as Saban? The damn governor of Alabama doesn't have power over Saban.
I think every coach in the SEC has that relationship with their AD. They usually make 5 times or greater and the ADs job is to handle the day-to-day financial issues with a program. Big spending requires other people to get involved.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:20 am to BigTastey
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Aubie will be just fine thank you for your interest.
As long as Georgia and Bama are 1A and 1B? You're out of your mind.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:23 am to Irons Puppet
quote:Nick Saban has earned the right to run his own operation but I assure you he answers to Greg Byrne and Pres Bell just like every to other head coach on staff.
You don't have an answer or will not admit. You have no list, because it doesn't exist at this level . Very few HCs in the SEC really answer to the AD. You think Saban answers to Byrne ?
Your notion that very few HC's don't have to answer to their supervisor (AD) or follow his guidance, direction and mission for the athletic department in both financial and operational matters is silly.
A healthy relationship between head coaches and athletic directors is optimal, a process of accountability and collaboration between everyone is paramount in achieving goals the entire athletic department.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:23 am to RelentlessTide
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It's been said that Auburn "self-recruits." I don't know about that.
Apparently Harsin heard that and assumed it to be true. He's been totally absent from the recruiting trail, much to his team's chagrin.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:25 am to Irons Puppet
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Very few HCs in the SEC really answer to the AD
Definition of a program run amok.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:32 am to RelentlessTide
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Very few HCs in the SEC really answer to the AD
quote:Exactly!
Definition of a program run amok.
Can you imagine a HC not working with his AD, not "answering to" his immediate supervisor? And Athletic Department where the HC doesn't recognize an authority figure and doesn't "answer to his AD" is left to report to whom? Where would the supervision & accountability be in an athletic department like that operates like that?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:36 am to RT1941
bullshite. He does answer to the President, but Byrne just acts as a intermediary, which is how it is at most P5 schools.
I don't believe you are that naive. The ADs main function is day to day operations and fund raising. If you think otherwise, you are a fool. A good relationship is great, but the AD knows his place and how much power a successful HC has.
I don't believe you are that naive. The ADs main function is day to day operations and fund raising. If you think otherwise, you are a fool. A good relationship is great, but the AD knows his place and how much power a successful HC has.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:38 am to NaturalStateReb
I had to read your response a time or two....
Why would any program who prefers to compete for championships hire a coach for a year or two with both sides knowing he will be replaced for the right guy after things settle down? Especially in today's SEC culture.
To be very honest this board is wrong about the whole situation at Auburn with booster involvement. The situation came to them and it is completely on the HC and his staff.
It would funny as hell when all is said and done that he walks away with a minor buyout to protect his own reputation among a few others. This is not on Auburn.
You think very highly that Lane is satisfied in Oxford? Not saying he is coming to Auburn but he will go somewhere in a heartbeat where he can seriously compete for championships.
Why would any program who prefers to compete for championships hire a coach for a year or two with both sides knowing he will be replaced for the right guy after things settle down? Especially in today's SEC culture.
To be very honest this board is wrong about the whole situation at Auburn with booster involvement. The situation came to them and it is completely on the HC and his staff.
It would funny as hell when all is said and done that he walks away with a minor buyout to protect his own reputation among a few others. This is not on Auburn.
You think very highly that Lane is satisfied in Oxford? Not saying he is coming to Auburn but he will go somewhere in a heartbeat where he can seriously compete for championships.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:41 am to RT1941
You are trying to manipulate verbiage to show your point. "Working with ", "supervisor ", "answer to", those are not the reality of a HC and ADs relationship. Please show me a chart where the Booster is in the chain of command. Come on, you know better.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:22 am to Billy Blanks
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Aubie has been competing against both STATE schools since inception of the conference and damn not scared of either like the rest of you.
Respectfully to Hairy Dawg ..it took them a few years to catch up and get ahead in the rivalry. Auburn and Georgia know each other extremely well because of proximity of the schools, past coaches, family, etc.
Couple Kirby's time at Bama there have been a lot of heated close recruiting battles Auburn has lost the past few years due to instability at HC. Kirby has rightfully used it to his advantage. Now that Bobo is back in Athens Kirby knows what really went down last December in Auburn and is using it daily to his advantage.
Aubie also knows Hairy Dawg is dialed in and has it on cruise control. He also knows Harsin is not going to cut it because of his beliefs in what type recruit he wants.
As for Big Al... Aubie has closed the gap on Big Al over the years and has proven with right coach they can go toe to toe with then.
New football facility opening with help of Apple will put Auburn on par facility wise with all but Big Al and the gap there is not that wide. The campus rivals all of you and the NIL money waiting for right coach.
Yes, I will get down voted but I don't give a damn.
Right coach and Aubie will be right back in the hunt.
Aubie has been competing against both STATE schools since inception of the conference and damn not scared of either like the rest of you.
Respectfully to Hairy Dawg ..it took them a few years to catch up and get ahead in the rivalry. Auburn and Georgia know each other extremely well because of proximity of the schools, past coaches, family, etc.
Couple Kirby's time at Bama there have been a lot of heated close recruiting battles Auburn has lost the past few years due to instability at HC. Kirby has rightfully used it to his advantage. Now that Bobo is back in Athens Kirby knows what really went down last December in Auburn and is using it daily to his advantage.
Aubie also knows Hairy Dawg is dialed in and has it on cruise control. He also knows Harsin is not going to cut it because of his beliefs in what type recruit he wants.
As for Big Al... Aubie has closed the gap on Big Al over the years and has proven with right coach they can go toe to toe with then.
New football facility opening with help of Apple will put Auburn on par facility wise with all but Big Al and the gap there is not that wide. The campus rivals all of you and the NIL money waiting for right coach.
Yes, I will get down voted but I don't give a damn.
Right coach and Aubie will be right back in the hunt.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:29 am to Between TheHedges
We could slip in the abyss.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:38 am to Irons Puppet
Are you always in a constant melt? Takes deep breaths. Auburn can be respectable with a good hire.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:50 am to Starkvingard
You have no clue what a melt is, what a fricking idiot. You call it a melt when someone tries to set the record straight on a subject. If it is against your warped sense of logic, it's a melt. Lololololol.
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