re: Auburn FB historically: most underrated SEC program?

I said it wasn't dispositive on it's own i didn't say it wasn't a factor

But at the same time yeah OU is a top 5-7 program of the last 20 years easy.

Well I disagree, we should weigh Auburn's success differently due to them having to play 4 of the big six every season before 1992. That's insane

that could be a factor in a tie but Auburn, while a very good program, just isn't quite on the level to where you would say they are in the top half of the big six.

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I'm not an Auburn fan, but I will: on average, they've had the toughest schedule by far of the SEC's big six. They didn't get to beat on Vandy, UK, MSU or UM annually (only the last two since 1992)

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Auburn played State annually a long time before expansion. Shug was one of the original cowbell complainers.

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Michigan State has won six national championships and nine Big Ten championships. In recent times (The Dantonio tenure 2007-2019) their record was 114-57. Auburn's record over that same time 109-61. MSU also has more conference championships (3 to 2) over that time. Saying they aren't on the "same planet" ignores what the facts on the ground are.

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You don't understand what "historically" means.

All time wins

13. Auburn 776

27. Michigan State 708


Who do you think has done it against stiffer competition?

Even throwing competition discrepancy aside Auburn's "floor" was worse in that time span (2012 season), but yall nearly had two NCs. Michigan State's "ceiling" was winning the Big Ten and getting utterly obliterated by Bamuh in the CFP

Maybe it's because I'm from Louisiana, but it's LSU. They hate us. I mean people think we are going to have a losing season now burrow is gone. When we've been the only program to win at least 8 games since what ever time frame.

Auburn, Bama, Clemson, tOSU, OU, UF prob missing some others, have all had worse seasons than LSU. We have been the most consistent program for 20 years yet people act like every title was some fluke.

No, sit down and shut up.

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re: Auburn FB historically: most underrated SEC program?Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:03 pm to InGAButLoveBama
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Except Auburn officials were admitting that the trees were DYING at that moment, from years of abuse from their own fans.


Link or it just confirms what we already know to be true anyways...you are a lying POS. Legitimate Bama fans won't even acknowledge you.

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I will be the bigger man and refrain from making this personal. But do see the following AUBURN University produced piece from 2007, three years before Updyke stupidly changed the narrative, and cruelly hastened the death of admittedly gorgeous trees : LINK Read and weep. I would copy and paste the key lines in the piece, but it is the type of document with text that can not be copied and pasted.

This is not even the news piece I read a year or so before Updyke did what he did. And it was less of an indictment as the piece I recall reading, again, BEFORE Updyke did what he did. It is just the first article I could find that mentions that the trees were in fact dying, partially due to years of pressure washing, well BEFORE Updyke poured poison on those tree roots, hastening the process.

Your toilet paper tradition was putting great stress on those trees, hastening their death in fact before Updyke came along. They were not old trees relative to they typical lifespan of that kind of oak, so it is not like they were just old and thus nearing death. Deal with it. You should apologize for calling me a liar, and grow the f up, but we all know that won't happen.

All Bama fans I know loathe Updyke, but also know that your trees were already dying. Take it up with your own school for admitting something BEFORE Updyke allowed Auburn to shift the narrative and give Alabama a black eye.

Because so many stories were written about Updyke, it is hard to find more articles documenting my claim. I know that certain Bama fans have archived proof, in addition to what I posted, but not sure where to find it. I am not allowed to post on the Alabama forum here, so I can't ask anyone there to post the additional archived proof.

We can disagree and coexist, but don't call me a POS liar and think I won't prove you wrong.

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They didn't get to beat on Vandy, UK, MSU or UM annually (only the last two since 1992)

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State has played Auburn annually since the 40's and regularly before then. There's probably a 100 games between us. However, State did play a lot of their "home" games in Birmingham.