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Auburn Fans Question regarding Gene Chizik
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:21 am
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:21 am
What was his downfall at Auburn? I know he had a bad 2012, but what could he have done to keep his job? The guy knows his stuff on the SEC Network.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:22 am to South Georgia Dawg
He was losing on the field and on the trail.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:22 am to South Georgia Dawg
almost his entire team would rather get high
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:22 am to South Georgia Dawg
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What was his downfall at Auburn? I know he had a bad 2012, but what could he have done to keep his job? The guy knows his stuff on the SEC Network.
He could have made a few more church donations.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:31 am to South Georgia Dawg
He lost the team. We had a pretty bad coaching staff overall, but the talent alone should have been good enough to at least make a bowl game in 2012 (as evidenced by basically all the same players plus a new QB going to the natty the year after). Listening to some of the beat writers and former players, he got a little too big for his britches after the NC (stuff like requiring players to make appointments with a secretary to meet with him; imposing a curfew, etc.), so that once things started looking down, the team just kinda quit on him
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:37 am to South Georgia Dawg
From what I have heard, he felt he didnt get enough credit for 2010, everyone praised Gus. He lost the team and coaches from his pride and distrust. Everything collapsed from there
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:42 am to South Georgia Dawg
Take away that 2010 Cam Newton season and Chizik is at best a low level mediocre coach. His record at Auburn sans that season was 19-19.
Because he has shown little fire and desire to coach again and prefers broadcasting I see no reason any school would seek him out.
It is unusual for a guy under 60 with a championship ring to not be a head coach some place.
Because he has shown little fire and desire to coach again and prefers broadcasting I see no reason any school would seek him out.
It is unusual for a guy under 60 with a championship ring to not be a head coach some place.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:43 am to South Georgia Dawg
He's a solid football coach, but I think Coach Chizik got a little arrogant after the NC. Even in 2011, you could smell something was wrong. We went 8-5 that year, but all the losses were blowouts, which pissed off a lot of the fans. Then 2012 started, and the team completely quit on him about midway through the season (if I had to pick a point, I would say the Arkansas game). Unacceptable failure of leadership. He got fired because there didn't appear to be any way for him to climb out of the hole he had dug for himself.
Bad thing about it was that the talent was there, which became obvious the following year. Coach Chizik is a good example of the phrase "pride goeth before the fall." Still like him and am proud of him for the NC, but he really didn't give the Auburn admins any choice but to fire him. I do wish he would try to coach somewhere again, but I also really like him on the SEC Network!
Bad thing about it was that the talent was there, which became obvious the following year. Coach Chizik is a good example of the phrase "pride goeth before the fall." Still like him and am proud of him for the NC, but he really didn't give the Auburn admins any choice but to fire him. I do wish he would try to coach somewhere again, but I also really like him on the SEC Network!
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:44 am to NYCAuburn
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From what I have heard, he felt he didnt get enough credit for 2010, everyone praised Gus. He lost the team and coaches from his pride and distrust. Everything collapsed from there
Cam Newton took an 8-5 type team and ran the table. Any coach with mental acuity above Joe Biden could have won with that team and that guy.
Gus is the better coach, no question.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:45 am to BamaTide1958
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Take away that 2010 Cam Newton season
Always loved this narrative. Makes for fair discussion
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:46 am to BamaTide1958
Another former Auburn coach who had great success there and never returned to the big time was Terry Bowden. Bowden was 47-17-1 at Auburn and almost won a national title his first year.
He also did the broadcast thing and didn't return to coaching for a decade at North Alabama. Then he went to Akron and sucked horribly.
He also did the broadcast thing and didn't return to coaching for a decade at North Alabama. Then he went to Akron and sucked horribly.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:07 am to South Georgia Dawg
Chiz seems to have kind of mailed it in after 2010. It appeared that Gus getting so much of the credit really bothered him so he changed the offensive system and that didn't work out. We didn't recruit high character guys and team discipline suffered. He let off on discipline for a while through 2011 in sort of championship afterglow and clamped down too hard (Curfews, etc) after some bad incidents. The players weren't used to it and rebelled. Thus we had the horror of 2012. I remember sitting in the stands at the 2012 Texas A&M game when Manzell was obviously being told to just go and run around to try and not run up the score but only a couple of guys on our defense were still trying, so he couldn't stop scoring. That's why Gus fired everybody, even though some of them were good assistant coaches. He needed a cultural restart.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:09 am to South Georgia Dawg
Aside from the terrible record, the revelation that Chizik hired a private security firm to enforce curfew off-campus helped put the nail in the coffin.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:14 am to South Georgia Dawg
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What was his downfall at Auburn?
Recruiting. Look at those pre-2010 classes.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:17 am to BamaTide1958
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Because he has shown little fire and desire to coach again and prefers broadcasting I see no reason any school would seek him out.
He went back and was the DC at North Carolina and did well
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:27 am to CaptainBrannigan
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He went back and was the DC at North Carolina and did well
Yes, he is/was a pretty darn good DC, just not HC. He just caught "Lightning in a bottle" for one year. That happens on rare occasion when an exceptionally gifted QB is mixed with the right kind of players. I have to admit that was one of the most exciting teams I ever saw- it was just riveting as Cam could do no wrong.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:29 am to bayou prince
Watching Cam was like seeing a Dad play ball in the yard with his kids. It was the definition of lightning in a bottle. There weren't any other NFL players on that offense. We had the best offensive and defensive players in college football on that squad with a bunch of other solid but not exceptional players.
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:30 am to South Georgia Dawg
He is great in the booth, I wish CBS would kick out Danielson and replace him with Chizik.
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