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re: Auburn beats Bama by 19 points with only 7 players

Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:47 pm to
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Auburn was without two of our most talented players when y’all beat Auburn that game


Our 2 best players played a combined total of 15 minutes in the first game.

Just take the win last night and move on. Don't start trying to make excuses for losing the 1st one.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36243 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Just take the win last night and move on. Don't start trying to make excuses for losing the 1st one.

Don’t start saying “well we beat y’all without Colin Sexton!” like that is the equivalent to getting beat by a team with 7 scholarship players and with the most NBA-ready players ruled out.
And for the record, our best player on the team and Purifoy combined for 0 minutes the first game.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 1:59 pm to
after 2 games, the teams are 1-1....that's the record, and none of the "ifs" and "buts" bullshite is gonna change it. Maybe they'll have a chance to play each other again in St. Louis..who knows.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:07 pm to
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And for the record, our best player on the team and Purifoy combined for 0 minutes the first game.


Your current team hasn't played 1 second with Wiley and Purifoy. You have no clue what this bunch would look like with those guys.

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Don’t start saying “well we beat y’all without Colin Sexton!” like that is the equivalent to getting beat by a team with 7 scholarship players and with the most NBA-ready players ruled out.


I think the majority of people here have said we got our arse whipped and are embarrassed. Very few have said "whatever we beat you without Colin Sexton".
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36243 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:24 pm to
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Your current team hasn't played 1 second with Wiley and Purifoy. You have no clue what this bunch would look like with those guys.

Yeah but it’s quite a stretch of logic to suggest that the team would regress if more talent was added in. That’s like saying Bama plays better without Sexton out of the game. Would you believe it, no...
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I think the majority of people here have said we got our arse whipped and are embarrassed. Very few have said "whatever we beat you without Colin Sexton".

Agreed, but one of the few is who I was talking to.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:38 pm to
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Agreed, but one of the few is who I was talking to.

Do you even know where you jumped into this thread? I was using various excuses that could be used by Alabama folks to make an example of Bowl Jackson's post....that's why I even mentioned "that game came be played both ways"...then here you came.
Posted by Tidefan44
Prattville, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
625 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:50 pm to
I think you need to tell ESPN to fix their box score. They show eight (8) players participated for Auburn last night. Keim did not do much, but he did provide relief for someone for a bit. I think you were trying to regurgitate what you heard from the broadcasters last night when they stated Auburn only had seven (7) "scholarship" players available.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:52 pm to
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I think you need to tell ESPN to fix their box score. They show eight (8) players participated for Auburn last night. Keim did not do much, but he did provide relief for someone for a bit. I think you were trying to regurgitate what you heard from the broadcasters last night when they stated Auburn only had seven (7) "scholarship" players available.



Keim will be telling his grand kids about stripping Sexton and the refs bailing him out for years.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
7957 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:54 pm to
This argument has past run its course. It's nice to have the upper hand on a rival but neither of us should use the other as a benchmark for success. We both have bigger fish to fry so to speak. Good luck the rest of the season
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 2:59 pm to
Amen! ...mine's ice cold...is yours?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36243 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:08 pm to
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I was using various excuses that could be used by Alabama folks

And I was speaking to the ridiculousness of them.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:19 pm to
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And I was speaking to the ridiculousness of them.


...and the ridiculousness of those used by Auburn folks after the 1st game?
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:40 pm to
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Avery Johnson is Alabama’s Gus Malzahn.


Please. Avery is never going to sniff an SEC title or NCG
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:44 pm to
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Last I am aware of, you only need 5 to play.
So what is the big deal here?


Yeah and you really only need 11 to play football, so why are we allowed to bring 85 to a game and have 100+ in the program when you include walk ons?

If Georgia had beat Auburn in football with 30 players, I'm pretty sure that would be a point of bragging for you idiots.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Yeah but it’s quite a stretch of logic to suggest that the team would regress if more talent was added in.


Auburn is definitely better without Wiley. Wiley would clog the lane, making it harder for your guards to drive, and he's a terrible pick and roll defender. Without Wiley AU puts 5 shooters on the floor, can play as fast as they like, and switch everything on defense at will.

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That’s like saying Bama plays better without Sexton out of the game.


So we play worse with Sexton in the game? There's actually some truth to that.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:51 pm to
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Your current team hasn't played 1 second with Wiley and Purifoy. You have no clue what this bunch would look like with those guys.


But I know that Bama is 0-2 against Wiley and Purifoy in their career, and if you don't think AU would have had a better chance to beat Bama with two extra big guys as talented as Wiley and Purifoy when we weren't hitting shots the first game then you're dreaming.

Wiley has already shown the ability to dominate Bama in the paint when he went for 19 points and 9 rebounds against y'all in the first game last year, and having that inside scoring presence also would have helped open things up more outside and potentially help more 3s fall.

That sort of impact could easily turn a 5 point loss into a 10 point win.
Somebody with the physical presence of Wiley probably gets us over the hump in the 1 point loss vs the Aggies too.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36243 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:55 pm to
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Auburn is definitely better without Wiley.

quote:

So we play worse with Sexton in the game? There's actually some truth to that.

Does Avery need to pull the future NBA lottery pick out of the game so his team can play better again? I think not.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 3:58 pm to
I mean you can laugh if you want, but I think feeding a post man would just slow this Auburn team down. Hell you can make the case Auburn was better last year without Wiley.

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Does Avery need to pull the future NBA lottery pick out of the game so his team can play better again?


We're undefeated when he doesn't play
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36243 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 4:16 pm to
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mean you can laugh if you want, but I think feeding a post man would just slow this Auburn team down.

Nah he would be a benefit to this team. He is too skilled in the post and is pretty smart to not strengthen our team in some way. Only post men like Isaac Haas would’ve slowed us down. Having Wiley would’ve helped against Temple and TAM for sure. Also, Wiley came in mid-season of 2017 and chemistry may have initially been bothered a bit but he was a skilled resource that we needed by the end of the year. He practiced for the 2018 season though and chemistry most certainly would've already been developed.
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We're undefeated when he doesn't play

Too small of a sample size for me to draw conclusions like that. The kid is a freak and he seems like a good kid (helping pick up Auburn opponent’s off the court) and he’s helped y’all win a lot of games. He was well worth the money that y’all spent on him.
This post was edited on 2/22/18 at 4:17 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 2/22/18 at 7:31 pm to
Are you and BowlJackson the same poster? Both of y'all try to rationalize entire seasons with people who either haven't played a minute this year or people who would have played differently if something was, or somebody did something differently at a particular point in time. Life doesn't work that way....sorry.
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