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re: Auburn/Alabama win out until the Iron Bowl: winner takes the #4 seed
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:32 pm to self_service
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:32 pm to self_service
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Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:35 pm to Stidham8
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Copy and Paste from reddit?
Pathetic.
It took effort to log that in his memory and come back and find it for such an occasion.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:38 pm to WG_Dawg
I mean, the absolutely could. But Ohio st would need to lose to 2, oklahoma lose 1 more and baylor lose 1...minnesota too. IF that happens, they absolutely could get in.
ohio st would have two losses vs their best opponents
oklahoma, baylor or minny wouldnt matter
uga would have a loss to auburn
bama would have a loss to auburn
who else would they put in?
it would be lsu, clemson, oregon/utah, auburn.
ohio st would have two losses vs their best opponents
oklahoma, baylor or minny wouldnt matter
uga would have a loss to auburn
bama would have a loss to auburn
who else would they put in?
it would be lsu, clemson, oregon/utah, auburn.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:41 pm to auzach91
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I mean, the absolutely could
it would take more chaos than 2007 for it to happen, like the CFB world completely flipping upside down
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But Ohio st would need to lose to 2, oklahoma lose 1 more
all that does is give those teams the same number of losses as AU. As the committee has proven time and time again, they value conference championships. They aren't going to put a 2 loss AU that didn't win their division in over P5 conference winners with the same record.
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who else would they put in?
it would be lsu, clemson, oregon/utah, auburn.
Agree on the 1st 3, but they simply aren't going to put in a 2-loss auburn. Why in the world would they do that instead of a 2-loss conference champion? Heck in your scenario you mentioned minnesota with a loss, they would easily go ahead of auburn.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:43 pm to WG_Dawg
You truly think they would take a 1 loss Minnesota, over Auburn?
eta: they were just undefeated last week and we had two losses and were ahead of them.
eta: they were just undefeated last week and we had two losses and were ahead of them.
This post was edited on 11/14/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:45 pm to Stidham8
Do you really believe a two loss team that does not win their conference will go to the playoffs?
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:46 pm to DawgsLife
In my scenario, absolutely.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:48 pm to auzach91
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You truly think they would take a 1 loss Minnesota, over Auburn?
I know they would, unless they pull a 180 from every decision they've ever made
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they were just undefeated last week and we had two losses and were ahead of them.
rankings right now are entirely irrelevant. They just moved up 9 spots based on winning 1 game. You don't think conference champ weekend has the potential to see major rises and falls as well?
I mean it's simple logic here...there's only 4 teams getting in. It is almost inconceivable to think that 1 of those teams would get in with 2 losses and not winning their division.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:49 pm to Stidham8
I originally thought it would be Oregon/Utah, but Oklahoma has 3 ranked opponents in their final 4 games (#13, #22, and [#13 or #19]).
They may pass Oregon/Utah/A1abana.
They may pass Oregon/Utah/A1abana.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:54 pm to Grit-Eating Shin
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Lol. They're gonna need a lot of help, too.
The CFP will have great ratings no matter who is there, and very few people outside of LA/AL will want to tune in to watch bama get abused yet again.
Changing the reality of the situation. I like it.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 1:55 pm to Stidham8
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Oregon resume
1 top 10 win over Utah, No other ranked wins
Loss to Auburn
Auburn resume
top 10 wins over Oregon, Alabama, Georgia
Losses @ #1 LSU and top 10 Florida
Auburn easily gets in over them.
This. I don't think Auburn gets in easily, or without controversy in this case, but when you actually lay out the facts I don't see how Auburn wouldn't get in over Oregon.
First, we beat them head to head on a neutral field, in our QB's first game ever. That wasn't even Auburn's best version of itself, considering it was a first start of a true freshman QB's career, and Auburn would have beaten back to back top 5 teams to close the season. So it's not like you could make the case that Oregon became better than Auburn during the season.
Second, the number of quality wins would clearly favor Auburn, so the only case that Oregon could make is having 1 less loss. If that one additional loss came to the #1 team, on the road, in their closest game of the year, can you really hold that against Auburn? I think it would be pretty clear.
However, Auburn would need losses from several other teams that are currently in their way to have any chance to get in the conversation including Oklahoma, Minnesota, and Baylor. Even Florida could get in Auburn's way with the same record and a head to head victory.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:00 pm to ATLtiger12
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when you actually lay out the facts I don't see how Auburn wouldn't get in over Oregon.
Facts:
Oregon- 1 loss
AU- 2 losses
Oregon- P5 champion
AU- division runner up
Those are the only facts that would matter
Nobody seems to read (or pay attnetion) to the thread that I post multiple times a day so I'll refersh your memory here on a similar situation.
The year was 2016. Ohio State lost a close game to Penn State and was knocked out of the Big10 race. Penn State ended up losing 2 games, one an odd one to Pitt and another to Michigan. They went on to win the Big 10. But guess what? OSU made the playoffs and PSU did not, despite having beaten OSU head to head AND winning the conference! How could this be? Simple, because they had2 losses and OSU only had 1.
AGain, a 2 loss AU would have a less than 0% chance of making the playoffs above a 1-loss chmp oregon. None whatsoever.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:01 pm to auzach91
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In my scenario, absolutely.
I guess if every single thing goes right and ......never mind. It just isn't happening.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:07 pm to DawgsLife
I am not saying it will....were gonna lose to uga and bama....but IF it happened, which is what this thread is about...
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:29 pm to auzach91
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I am not saying it will....were gonna lose to uga and bama..
I don't think I would go that far. Auburn at Auburn is a tough out for anybody. You proved that in 2017. I think Auburn has a decent shot to do your part of your scenario. I just think there are too many moving parts for it all to happen.
No offense to you or your scenario. I did not mean to troll or offend.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:39 pm to Stidham8
Its called copy pasta, old man. Get with the times
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:40 pm to Stidham8
Hopefully Georgia beats y'all and then y'all beat Bama to end all the talk about this backing in shite.
Posted on 11/14/19 at 2:49 pm to WG_Dawg
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Oregon- P5 champion
AU- division runner up
Those are the only facts that would matter
This can't be the only criteria that matters. The committee looks at strength of schedule and Oregon doesn't have it. The PAC 12 is a really bad conference this year. They are "P5" by name only. Power Conference ratings have the American Athletic Conference as a better conference this year. Just because a team wins a bad conference doesn't mean they are automatically in if they have nearly 0 quality wins to show for it. I think in this scenario it would be pretty clear that the PAC 12 champion would be worse than 2nd place team from another conference.
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But guess what? OSU made the playoffs and PSU did not, despite having beaten OSU head to head AND winning the conference! How could this be? Simple, because they had2 losses and OSU only had 1.
These teams played in the same conference and had very similar strength of schedules because of it. Penn State also had a very questionable loss on their resume, which Auburn currently doesn't. This is not nearly the same example, no matter how many multiple times you post it a day.
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AGain, a 2 loss AU would have a less than 0% chance of making the playoffs above a 1-loss chmp oregon. None whatsoever.
I guarantee you we would have greater than a 0% chance of making the playoff. The piece you aren't considering is how bad the PAC 12 is this year. Teams that win G5 conferences aren't automatically in the playoff. Their are circumstances that could keep a PAC 12 champion out. The bigger issue would be Auburn getting by a Big 12 champion with 2 or less losses.
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