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Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:29 am to redeye
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:29 am to redeye
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You missed where I said he quit recruiting hard after '94? I mean, he still signed some great players, but he no longer had the fire he'd once had.
Oh yea I was agreeing with you, sorry.
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:30 am to redeye
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but Nolan quit recruiting well after the '94
Yes because Derrick Hood and Kareem Reid weren't McDonalds All Americans or anything.
That is a bullshite myth.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:31 am to dchog
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Mike Anderson did bring Arkansas back to the tournament but the problem is that he was a weak recruiter and he struggled to make the tournament each year.
Another thing here.
40 Minutes of Hell and Fastest 40 Minutes, or whatever it was called, were not the same thing. Many people have forgotten that 40 Minutes of Hell was referencing 40 minutes of great defense and not just scoring a lot of points. Huge difference.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:32 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Oh yea I was agreeing with you, sorry.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:34 am to bamameister
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Could be, I wasn't there and who knows unless you get something first hand. But I vividly remember Nolan verbally voicing his complete displeasure at not being offered a new contract and raise. Why would the University ever allow that to get to that point?
This is the basketball equivalent of refusing to renegotiate with coach Saban after the Texas NC game.
We just re-upped coach Oats to a basketball extension north of 3 mil only because of something he accomplished in less than 2 seasons.
Nolan accomplished far more than that over a far longer time at Fayetteville my friend.
You continue to say this but its not rooted in fact. Richardson was one of the highest paid coaches in CBB and received numerous raises over his tenure at Arkansas. In the end, he was upset that Houston Nutt got a raise and made more than him.
Richardson was making $1 million a year in the late 1990's which was serious $$ for CBB. They paid him $3 million when he was fired.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:34 am to redeye
I don't think Nolan stopped recruiting. He still had plenty of talent after those years but his relationship with Broyles is what caused him to lose focus and politics was his worry.
Nolan was an angry and bitter person. His beef with Broyles last 17 years and it goes back to when his daughter was sick. Nolan took it as an insult when Frank pushed him to produce results but Nolan's daughter was his only concern. He was angry at Broyles because he came off as not caring. So he held that grudge against him when his daughter died.
We were a top five job when Nolan was in a better state of mind.
But Nolan was a bomb ready to explode. He could have had coach K type results but he too many demons for any type of results like that.
Nolan was an angry and bitter person. His beef with Broyles last 17 years and it goes back to when his daughter was sick. Nolan took it as an insult when Frank pushed him to produce results but Nolan's daughter was his only concern. He was angry at Broyles because he came off as not caring. So he held that grudge against him when his daughter died.
We were a top five job when Nolan was in a better state of mind.
But Nolan was a bomb ready to explode. He could have had coach K type results but he too many demons for any type of results like that.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:37 am to TheSwineAssault
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A UCLA team that had ineligible players. (Obannon)
That POS cock sucker cost America the NCAA Football franchise. That frick head.
Luckily, after all of these years, NCAA Football is coming back next year.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:37 am to STLhog
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Yes because Derrick Hood and Kareem Reid weren't McDonalds All Americans or anything.
That is a bullshite myth.
Call it a myth, but it's also my opinion. Hood was overrated, but he and Reid were certainly McDonald's AA's. I did note that he signed some great players, but not like he had been. I could see the writing on the wall before his #1 class ever stepped on the court.
But don't get me wrong. I loved Nolan and was a huge fan of his. He just wasn't recruiting the same after '94.
Edit: Also should mention that Reid and Hood were class of '95, IIRC. I probably should have used '95, instead, for this reason. My point was merely that Nolan wasn't recruiting as well after winning the national title, despite how that should have helped him recruit better.
Another thing. While Duke, etc, were recruiting multiple McDonald's AA's in every class, Nolan had a knack for finding underrated players who fit his system well. So when I talk about his recruiting, I'm not just referring to the number of McDonald's AA's he signed.
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Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:40 am to redeye
Reid was also technically a 1994 signee. He was prop 48 the 94-95 season. On the team but couldn't play.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 11:43 am to dchog
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I don't think Nolan stopped recruiting. He still had plenty of talent after those years but his relationship with Broyles is what caused him to lose focus and politics was his worry.
I'm not disagreeing with any of that or anything else said here. But I followed basketball recruiting religiously during the 80s and 90s. Nolan should have been recruiting on another level after '94, but he regressed. We never recruited at the same level as Duke, UNC or Kentucky, but we had McDonald AA's in nearly every class in the early 90s.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 12:13 pm to Don Johnson
Yes it didn't help that many fans yearned for the next Nolan but never moved on after he was fired. They thought Anderson was going to be the one but they were wrong.
The Nolan firing left a dark cloud over the program. We finally moved on from that when Muss was hired.
The Nolan firing left a dark cloud over the program. We finally moved on from that when Muss was hired.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 12:21 pm to Inadvertent Whistle
It didn't help but it was a combination of other things that destroyed the basketball program and it started with Frank, Nolan and John White.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 12:33 pm to Columbia
I think they both respected each other years later. But it was very toxic and Nolan hated Frank.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 12:36 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Coincided neatly with the bogus NCAA investigation that lasted over 2 years and found no wrongdoing
Posted on 2/25/21 at 12:42 pm to Csmims
Mike Anderson should call his system "40 minutes of what the hell"
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:04 pm to King
400 career wins would say otherwise. And he will likely get to 500.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:08 pm to King
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Mike Anderson should call his system "40 minutes of what the hell"
It was definitely the poor man's version. Nolan made the tourney 15 times in 16 seasons, Anderson not so much.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:10 pm to STLhog
Part of the decline from 96 forward was that the NCAA changed the hand checking rules. Nolan's best teams played a lot like Bama tried to play last night...extremely aggressive defense. Pre-96 hand checking wasn't called. Post 96, including about half the time Bama tried it last night...it has been called.
The 'see what I did there'....is for the OP, not for the Bama fans that are honestly engaged in the thread.
The 'see what I did there'....is for the OP, not for the Bama fans that are honestly engaged in the thread.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:12 pm to King
Another reason that Nolan's teams weren't winning at the same clip was because college basketball was changing.
Refs started calling hand checking and that was devastating to our defense. It was the same "meh" defense we saw from Mike's teams.
Personally, after the NCAA witchhunt, I think Nolan would have recruited well enough to change his style of play to stay competitive at a high level. Our '94 and '95 teams played great halfcourt defense.
Too bad it ended like it did. Glad to see Nolan back and being part of the program again.
Refs started calling hand checking and that was devastating to our defense. It was the same "meh" defense we saw from Mike's teams.
Personally, after the NCAA witchhunt, I think Nolan would have recruited well enough to change his style of play to stay competitive at a high level. Our '94 and '95 teams played great halfcourt defense.
Too bad it ended like it did. Glad to see Nolan back and being part of the program again.
Posted on 2/25/21 at 1:16 pm to Streelman
Here to fill you in.. Your team still just got its arse beat.
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