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re: All-time records for SEC in-state rivalries
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:03 pm to Godawgs4
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:03 pm to Godawgs4
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The difference in the [Egg Bowl] is due to Johnny Vaught.
Since 1974, the official beginning of the post-Vaught era, Ole Miss leads 24-22 on the field. Both schools have forfeited or vacated two victories each in that period. Vaught was wholly responsible for for erasing Ole Miss’ gridiron ineptitude in the 1910s/first half of the 20s and had Ole Miss a full decade ahead in the W column by the time he ultimately hung it up. It was 24-17-2 in State’s favor pre-Vaught.
The other two victories came in blowout fashion in ‘71 and ‘72, but ‘72 was a bad year overall, and after losing to Memphis State in Jackson on the third week of the ‘73 season, Vaught, now AD, had seen enough of Billy Kinard. He fired his arse and replaced him with the best man for the job: himself.
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:03 pm to Mithridates6
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I see no reason to think FSU wouldn't have had the same success from 1990-2001 in the SEC East
Well, maybe because the SEC had better teams than the ACC pretty much every year. Same as now. I looked and they always had 1-2 other teams in the top 25 while the SEC was having 5-6. Same argument as Clemson now. They wouldn't have the same level of success in the SEC.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:03 pm to Bigbens42
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Weird. The actual record is 46-37-1 in favor of Alabama.
The Iron Bowl will be renamed the Quantum Bowl, as sometimes the games exist and other times they don't.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:03 pm to Mithridates6
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Alabama 45-32-1 vs Auburn
This is wrong. Auburn is in Georgia.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:13 pm to Smokeyone
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The Atlanta market and history is worth some forgiveness.
You mean the market that's dominated by UGA? Followed by half a dozen other SEC teams then GT? Hard pass.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:18 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Well, maybe because the SEC had better teams than the ACC pretty much every year. Same as now. I looked and they always had 1-2 other teams in the top 25 while the SEC was having 5-6. Same argument as Clemson now. They wouldn't have the same level of success in the SEC.
UF was 8-4 against Tennessee and 11-1 against both UGA and LSU under Spurrier you think FSU wouldn't have been able to replicate that? FSU demolished several SEC champion UF teams. Imo the SEC didn't really become head and shoulders above the rest until about 2004
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Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:24 pm to Mithridates6
Maybe, but there are more than UT and UGA in the SEC that they would have to face. Look at Clemson, they have one tough game a year if that in the ACC now. I don't think FSU would run through the SEC like they did for so long in the ACC.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:27 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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UK dodged the Cards for a long time. Until about 40 years ago it would be like LSU playing ULM every year as a rivalry.
And to be fair, UofL almost dodged football all together when there was talk of just shutting the program down pre-Schnellenberger.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:29 pm to Mithridates6
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UF was 8-4 against Tennessee and 11-1 against both UGA and LSU under Spurrier you think FSU wouldn't have been able to replicate that? FSU demolished several SEC champion UF teams. Imo the SEC didn't really become head and shoulders above the rest until about 2004
Posted on 5/25/20 at 8:30 pm to BluegrassBelle
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And to be fair, UofL almost dodged football all together when there was talk of just shutting the program down pre-Schnellenberger.
True, it just wasn't in UK's best interest to play the upstart Cardinals until they were a little more ready.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 9:13 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
I remember spending some time in Atlanta region and northern Ga in the mid 90s and I don't think I saw anything GT-related, all UGA or Braves. I think UGA was mostly mediocre in this era as well
Posted on 5/25/20 at 9:20 pm to ValDawgsta
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Bobby Dodd was obviously a great coach, but his decision to have Tech go independent has to go down in NCAA athletics history as one of the more colossal mistakes.
Dodd was a great coach but a shitty AD.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 9:54 pm to Mithridates6
Ten of aggy’s wins (or more than a quarter) of their all-time wins came between 1984 and 1994, when they were one of the dirtiest teams in America (and didn’t win jock sheet) and TEXAS was struggling through the post-Darrell Royal and Fred Akers era, two coaches who went 22-8 against aggy (Akers’ three top 5 finishes in 10 years are as many as aggy’s in the 94 years of the AP poll).
Before their 10-game streak of luck that inflates that “since 1975” bullshite, TEXAS led the series 63-21. After their decade of probation and dirty tactics, the series is 12-5, TEXAS.
And there it shall remain forever more. Poor aggy.
Before their 10-game streak of luck that inflates that “since 1975” bullshite, TEXAS led the series 63-21. After their decade of probation and dirty tactics, the series is 12-5, TEXAS.
And there it shall remain forever more. Poor aggy.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:09 pm to texashorn
Yep Curley Hallman era LSU was 0-4 against A&M, he was also easily our worst coach ever with a winning pct of .364 (vs .656 all time). Aside from that, LSU is 34-16-3 against Aggy
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:14 pm to Mithridates6
Yes, Curley the Aggy. I take it you remember how dirty aggy was under Jackie Sherrill and R.C. Slocum. Aggy thinks they are fine gentlemen. Bear Bryant, Gene Stallings, Sherrill and Slocum all landed Aggy on major probation.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:26 pm to texashorn
They got a TV ban like Old Miss, right? I'm not old enough to remember it actually happening, but I heard about it later from my Texan relatives. I think TCU and Houston also got bitchslapped by the NCAA around that time?
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:38 pm to Mithridates6
Two major football probations in 1988 (cheating going on for years and a former player saying hush money came via Federal Express) and 1994 (paying players with federal money meant for Section 8 housing work that was never done) and a TV ban in 1994, too. Their basketball team under Kermit Davis got put on probation in 1990 or so (he landed a show cause from that).
So in 1994 they were eligible for the death penalty for so much cheating in so short of,time, but the TEXAS athletics director begged the NCAA not to do it. So much for Aggy being thankful.
So in 1994 they were eligible for the death penalty for so much cheating in so short of,time, but the TEXAS athletics director begged the NCAA not to do it. So much for Aggy being thankful.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 10:57 pm to Mithridates6
quote:Those 90's Fla State teams would have owned the SEC, people are just not old enough to remember (or honest enough to admit it). Back then, the SEC was lucky to have a Top 10 team. Spurrier ran roughshod, but the conference was soft.
UF was 8-4 against Tennessee and 11-1 against both UGA and LSU under Spurrier you think FSU wouldn't have been able to replicate that? FSU demolished several SEC champion UF teams. Imo the SEC didn't really become head and shoulders above the rest until about 2004
Fla State wasn't the only elite team to blast an SEC champ, Nebraska skull-fricked the Gators too.
Wasn't until the late 90's that the quality of SEC teams started to rise. Began with Tennessee playing anyone, anywhere; then the rest of the conference chased them and upgraded. The strength of the conference was that the Big Six all had the resources to do so.
And what happened then is similar to what is happening now... Georgia SEEMED to be the team that would emerge, but LSU leapfrogged past them for a national title. And then Florida, chasing LSU, passed Georgia too and had their moment.
Posted on 5/25/20 at 11:17 pm to Scoob
Tennessee was good throughout the 1990s but overall I agree, the SEC didn't become dominant until ~2004. FSU would've cleaned up here in the 90s, no shame in admitting it
Posted on 5/26/20 at 12:57 am to Mithridates6
1. Why have UK-Louisville played so few games?
2. Wow, kinda surprised Vanderbilt has 30 wins against Tennessee.
2. Wow, kinda surprised Vanderbilt has 30 wins against Tennessee.
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