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Ale Kalo “transfer” maneuver will need rules

Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:22 am
Posted by whoyodaddy
Ono Island
Member since Nov 2011
559 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:22 am
The Ale Kalo “transfer” sets a bad precedent and opens the proverbial slippery slope. Firstly, the receiving team gets a “transfer” who really NEVER was enrolled in the previous school. Therefore this maneuver allows the receiving team, which already possesses a maxed out recent recruiting class, to over sign and therefore gain another uncounted recruit -because he is termed a “transfer”. This mechanism WILL be increasingly utilized to fill up the whole roster AND over sign recruits for that year.

Unless this is controlled, it could turn the ”commitment” into a hollow agreement. One remedy is for the NCAA to count that never enrolled “transfer” for the next year’s recruiting class for the receiving school.
Posted by Pickle_Weasel
Member since Mar 2016
3791 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:37 am to
Who the hell is Ale Kalo?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:45 am to
There are rules
He's in compliance
Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17245 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 6:49 am to
Your butt hurt is showing.
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17582 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:15 am to
Saban warn of this, no one listen so here we are.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68260 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:18 am to
You cant go over 25 guys still even with transfers like that. He counts against that. They arent manipulating any rules to get a guy in like that in that manner.

Now, how they got a kid at the 11th hour to flip over to them after supposedly not talking to him the last 8 months, that's another question. Very conveniently right after they kicked an ILB off the team
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 7:26 am
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:21 am to
He counted against our 18 class... We had spots left. Didn’t sign 25 last year. Saban knows what he’s doing
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
10912 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:22 am to
The deception is the problem here and the only thing you can do about it is dispute letting them out of their commitment. This guy told Udub that he need to be closer to his mom. Petersen was a stand up guy and said ok and let him go. Then he stabs him in the back goes Bama. Then Bama is telling everyone he couldn't make the grades at Udub to get in. That was not the original story.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:25 am to
You realize everyone wants free agency, but gets mad at somebody going to another school. Oh yeah, Bama.
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:27 am to
You mean like being a grad transfer and saying that the school doesn’t have your masters program.. but really it’s because of playing time? Saban spoke against free agency and everyone jumped on him. Well here it is... enjoy
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 7:45 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:33 am to
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Hurry, make another rule!
This post was edited on 8/16/18 at 7:35 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75827 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Therefore this maneuver allows the receiving team, which already possesses a maxed out recent recruiting class,


You fricking idiot.

Alabama only signed 21 kids in last year's class.
Posted by JRBayoutiger
Down da bayou
Member since Nov 2015
754 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:37 am to
Free agency will ruin college football.
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:45 am to
I Thought Saban already did according to L7U??
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21656 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 7:49 am to
quote:

Saban spoke against free agency and everyone jumped on him. Well here it is... enjoy




I believe a lot of us pointed out that nobody was going to like playing this game against Saban and Bama.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:00 am to
quote:

The Ale Kalo “transfer” sets a bad precedent and opens the proverbial slippery slope. Firstly, the receiving team gets a “transfer” who really NEVER was enrolled in the previous school. Therefore this maneuver allows the receiving team, which already possesses a maxed out recent recruiting class, to over sign and therefore gain another uncounted recruit -because he is termed a “transfer”. This mechanism WILL be increasingly utilized to fill up the whole roster AND over sign recruits for that year.

Unless this is controlled, it could turn the ”commitment” into a hollow agreement. One remedy is for the NCAA to count that never enrolled “transfer” for the next year’s recruiting class for the receiving school.


So you want more rules for an event that happens about once a decade, maybe less?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:15 am to
quote:

The Ale Kalo “transfer” sets a bad precedent and opens the proverbial slippery slope. Firstly, the receiving team gets a “transfer” who really NEVER was enrolled in the previous school.

Which is what made it okay. He never enrolled and Washington gave him a waiver. Had Washington not given him a waiver from his LOI, then a problem would have happened.

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Therefore this maneuver allows the receiving team, which already possesses a maxed out recent recruiting class,

This is wrong, too. He counted against their 2018 class which was not maxed out. Alabama had an open slot.

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Unless this is controlled, it could turn the ”commitment” into a hollow agreement.

How so? The signing school would simply not give the recruit a waiver and he would be bound by any other transfer rules, meaning he would have to sit a year.

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One remedy is for the NCAA to count that never enrolled “transfer” for the next year’s recruiting class for the receiving school.

And again, he counted against Alabama's 2018 class in which they undersigned.

You are getting all upset about a situation you are not familiar with.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Saban warn of this, no one listen so here we are.

And again you don't know what you are tlaking about, either. You are trying to compare a graduate transfer to an undergraduate transfer. Saban has gotten undergraduate transfers, too, in the past and will do so in the future. it is legal and has been legal from many, many years.

Maybe you and the OP can get together and complain about more stuff you don't understand.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:21 am to
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You mean like being a grad transfer and saying that the school doesn’t have your masters program.. but really it’s because of playing time?

Now I am confused. Alabama people told us he was a starter? how could it have been about playing time?
quote:

Saban spoke against free agency and everyone jumped on him. Well here it is... enjoy

You really have no idea how the two are not even remotely similar, do you?


You are still crying about Mo Smith? Time to move on.
Posted by SXV
Member since Feb 2016
1679 posts
Posted on 8/16/18 at 8:23 am to
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This guy told Udub that he need to be closer to his mom. Petersen was a stand up guy and said ok and let him go


You sure about that? Saban said that he was declined admission into Washington, not that he just changed his mind all of a sudden.
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