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re: Alabama vs Clemson... watched again

Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72828 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:15 pm to
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Bama is in decline.


Without a doubt.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33139 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:16 pm to
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Once Orgeron gets the linemen in Baton Rouge LSU will be ready to end our streak.


bgc, report to the inbred principal's office.

Now.

Posted by CybrSaylr
Member since Apr 2019
62 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:37 pm to
Bama is scraight Do-Do and Saban is a loser that even the garbageman knows more about football than him.

Saban don't even understand football, really. The only reason he has ever won a game is because he buys good players with Dodgers and those players already know how to play football because they had good high school coaches.

He don't even know football really. As in he don't understand how it works or the rules and if you don't know the game you can't teach it to anyone.

The only reason he is even a coach is because he was just trying to be like his daddy and he has never been good at it. His daddy got him his coaching jobs and Saban never could have did it himself because he just doesn't understand the game.
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
7540 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:43 pm to
feel better about that 29-zip beatdown in bryant-denny west, now? tiggers will have their chance in november to beat the tide. good luck!
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:49 pm to
Our principle is inbred 19?
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:53 pm to
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CybrSaylr


You have made the weirdest first post I’ve ever read on this website. Obviously you’re trolling and an alter but your first post is so frickin odd.
Posted by CybrSaylr
Member since Apr 2019
62 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:02 pm to
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You have made the weirdest first post I’ve ever read on this website. Obviously you’re trolling and an alter but your first post is so frickin odd.


You are a salter, not me. All I'm sayin' is that Saban don't know football, don't know X's and O's, and the only reason he ever wins is because of the good players he gets with the Dodgers.

Bammers is done and Saban is a lucky coach who wouldn't have never won even one game without good players.

Every single player he gets is worse when they graduate because he confuses them and makes them worse because he ain't a good coach.
This post was edited on 4/16/19 at 10:04 pm
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5732 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 10:40 pm to
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By the time that happened the issue was decided. A huge hole had been dug. Clemson has a cakewalk to the playoffs with one caveat. As weak as that schedule is, one loss likely keeps them out.


Your counter-argument makes no sense at all.

I showed you numbers explaining that Bama attempted to blitz Lawrence and you went off on a tangent with excuses. The Clemson line held up well vs the blitz. You just refuse to give Clemson credit.

Bama blitzed at their typical rate in the 1st half (right at 24%). They came out in the 2nd half and sent a blitz basically every other play at Lawrence. He proceeded to complete 73% of his passes in the 2nd half.

Saban and Bama tried to adjust, Clemson was just better.
Posted by CybrSaylr
Member since Apr 2019
62 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:07 pm to
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Saban and Bama tried to adjust, Clemson was just better.


That's cause Saban sucks and can't coach and Dabo is a lot better coach.
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5732 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:11 pm to
Excellent next-level stat-driven analysis, my friend. Phenomenal stuff.
Posted by CybrSaylr
Member since Apr 2019
62 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:16 pm to
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Excellent next-level stat-driven analysis, my friend. Phenomenal stuff.


It don't take no road scalwer to know that Saban sucks, his players hate him, Bama done, and Clemson bout to stomp.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:59 pm to
UGA might not get back there. UF has a football coach now and don't be shocked if they give UGA a fit.

LSU does not have the talent Alabama does, especially on offense. Not even close.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 12:00 am
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 12:06 am to
You can talk all that you want, I watched the game and I am not taking your word for it. What you call a blitz and what I do are probably 2 different things. The Bama staff said they thought they could get to him with four and were surprised that they could not, it was the plan. I did not see a lot of blitzing til later.


A lot of QB's could have done what Trevor Lawrence did. I was not all that impressed. The receivers were very impressive. I could have made some of the throws but not a lot of people could have made the catches.

Defensively Clemson bent, but they never broke. They made the plays when it counted, and you tip your hat to them.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 12:11 am
Posted by The_Ultimate_Warrior
Member since Mar 2019
5732 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 12:32 am to
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What you call a blitz and what I do are probably 2 different things.


Most likely. But you're wrong.

I'll give you time stamps for a few, but I'm tired of holding your hand.

2nd quarter - 6:27
2nd quarter - 6:23
2nd quarter - 5:45
2nd quarter - 0:52
3rd quarter - 8:38
3rd quarter - 5:06
Posted by KennesawTiger
In your head
Member since Dec 2006
6870 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 3:57 am to
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Bama is scraight Do-Do and Saban is a loser that even the garbageman knows more about football than him.



Finally, a sister-fricker who gets it.

Sabans's best skill is in having the NCAA President in his back pocket. It is why Bammer is allowed to play by a different set of rules than everyone else.

Couldn't save them against Clemson, though!
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 3:58 am
Posted by CAbamafan
Member since Dec 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 4:18 am to
Alabama went 14-1 last season, went undefeated in the SEC, as well as winning the SEC Championship, and finished #2 in the country.
No, we didn’t get the cherry on top, but last season was still a pretty great one. I really don’t understand why people are acting like Alabama fell off. Alabama and Clemson are at the same level. It’s a toss-up who will win each year. Alabama has a good chance to win it in 2019.
Posted by KennesawTiger
In your head
Member since Dec 2006
6870 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 4:44 am to
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. Alabama has a good chance to win it in 2019.


As long as Emmert, Sabans' best buddy from his LSU days, is in charge of the NCAA,yes. Alabama will be able to skirt any rules they wish; especially with regards to recruiting.
This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 4:45 am
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
2612 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 6:33 am to
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Alabama was not good enough on defense to win this game, but there will be another day.



With all due respect, I think this statement illustrates something I've thought for a while.

If Alabama wasn't good enough on defense, then no one is going to be, ever.

You guys have consistently recruited better than anyone during Saban's tenure. Your roster top to bottom was better than Clemson's, particularly on defense.

Georgia is trying to pull off your recruiting shtick, and all signs are they are doing so. Their roster top to bottom is just as stacked as yours with future NFL players at this point. Well, if it is not, it will be after another recruiting cycle. You just do not have a qualitative edge on them at this point (even if you still have one against Clemson and will probably continue to). All that is left is coaching.

So. Defense wasn't good enough? This points to a problem, or a great thing depending on how you look at it.

When even you guys face a quality qb that is hot, something is clear: Offenses can't be stopped anymore.

Like everyone on this board, I've watched you guys over the years. And other teams.

When Manziel was hot, when Lawrence was hot, a guy like Tebow - well you aren't stopping him.

Leaving Lawrence out of it for the moment, when a true pass/run guy is on, you can't stop it. No one can.

These offenses stop themselves. The qb isn't feeling it, there are inexplicable turnovers.

Only way you can stop it, with coaching being equal, is if you have a definite edge in athletic ability on defense compared to their offense (particularly on offensive line for them). And you just do not have that against Clemson, Ohio State, A&M (give the devil their recruiting grounds), a number of other schools that can recruit at this level.

As for the coaching, well the kind of opponent I'm talking about, the kind you'll see in that playoff can spend just as much money as you can for crackerjack coaches.

But there is no scheme left tht can stop these spread offenses. They stop themselves. Assuming they have a marquee qb, and have a certain level of talent surrounding that qb on offense.

And like I said. If Alabama can't do it, no other team can.

Modern college football is the battle of the qb's. It wouldn't surprise me if Alabama won a couple more titles. It also wouldn't surprise me if you lost to Clemson again, or a guy like Rattler pans out and Oklahoma lights you guys up one day.

Or Fields turns into a superstar at Ohio State (think he landed there), and Ohio State does the same.

This post was edited on 4/17/19 at 6:35 am
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 7:56 am to
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You guys have consistently recruited better than anyone during Saban's tenure. Your roster top to bottom was better than Clemson's, particularly on defense. 


Disagree with you there. It's about matchups.

Clemson DL vs Bama OL - adv. Clemson
Clemson WR vs Bama Secondary - big adv. Clemson
Clemson OL vs Bama DL - even
Clemson secondary vs Bama WR - adv. Bama but somewhat neutralized by DL

1-85 Bama was more talented. 1-30 it's a push, with Clemson having advantages at key positions.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 4/17/19 at 8:02 am to
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When even you guys face a quality qb that is hot, something is clear: Offenses can't be stopped anymore. 


Then what did Bama do against Oklahoma and Murray?

That said, I agree that a great offense always has a tactical advantage under today's rules in college and the NFL.
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