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re: Alabama guidelines-Employees can be terminated after 4th violation for not wearing mask
Posted on 8/13/20 at 9:47 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 8/13/20 at 9:47 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:that's why companies like mine have lots of lawyers you're not owed a job at all nobody is we have rules where I work you have to wear PPE you have to wear FR clothes which is PPE and follow guidelines.
Labor Attorneys in T-town are licking their chops. ?
I've personally written up people who don't want to wear masks it's real simple don't follow the rules, you can go work somewhere else we tell them in on-site orientation
Billion-dollar refineries are not about to be shut down because some wannabe prima donna doesn't want to wear a mask or is offended
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:24 pm to HammerJackFlash
Let me guess. You believe the earth is flat too?
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:26 pm to Ross
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This analogy is kind of weak Smoking is voluntary, breathing is not.
You’re right. Makes an even stronger case for mask wearing being mandatory. Given that others around you can’t help but breath.
Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:42 pm to Cshaw91
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Welcome to China
It's not a government.
Do you also cry about your 1st amendment rights on message boards?
Posted on 8/13/20 at 11:00 pm to ForeverGator
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We're still in this mess because people didn't wear masks.
So thank them for this. Just wear a god damn mask when you're around people. I don't understand why it's so difficult. The people that refuse just look like whiny children that pitch a fit until they get what they want.
frickING WEAR A MASK.
There is no correlation between mask usage and the numbers.
After states reopened, it took a full 6 weeks before the cases started to spike. These states did not have mask laws. If masks were the cause, you would have seen the increase 2 weeks after the states reopened, not a full 6 weeks.
Going further, even after these states implemented mask laws, there was no drop off 2 weeks later. It would once again take over a month for cases to drop back down.
Georgia has the opposite of mask laws and their curves are basically doing the same thing as states with mask laws.
Studys have been done that show without a mask, the particles of someone coughing straight out will only travel about 70cm(2.2 feet). With a mask on, that distance is half, to 45cm. However, even with a mask on, both sometimes travel to just over 3 feet in distance.
These are distances with someone coughing towards you without covering their mouth.
Thus, in order for the mask to have any effect, someone has to be in your face coughing from a short distance. Something that has never happened to me.
It is something that might happen to a healthcare worker. But they are still vulnerable and it will not prevent them from getting it.
Your arse better social distance if you don't want it or want to spread it is the real bottom line. What the 2nd wave was really tied to were Memorial Day, the Protests and the 4th of July where people gathered often and likely didn't social distance enough.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:08 am to 3down10
quote:And this is why there will be no college football.
There is no correlation between mask usage and the numbers.
After states reopened, it took a full 6 weeks before the cases started to spike. These states did not have mask laws. If masks were the cause, you would have seen the increase 2 weeks after the states reopened, not a full 6 weeks.
Going further, even after these states implemented mask laws, there was no drop off 2 weeks later. It would once again take over a month for cases to drop back down.
Georgia has the opposite of mask laws and their curves are basically doing the same thing as states with mask laws.
Studys have been done that show without a mask, the particles of someone coughing straight out will only travel about 70cm(2.2 feet). With a mask on, that distance is half, to 45cm. However, even with a mask on, both sometimes travel to just over 3 feet in distance.
These are distances with someone coughing towards you without covering their mouth.
Thus, in order for the mask to have any effect, someone has to be in your face coughing from a short distance. Something that has never happened to me.
It is something that might happen to a healthcare worker. But they are still vulnerable and it will not prevent them from getting it.
Your arse better social distance if you don't want it or want to spread it is the real bottom line. What the 2nd wave was really tied to were Memorial Day, the Protests and the 4th of July where people gathered often and likely didn't social distance enough.
A very simple request like wearing a mask is met with morons claiming it isn't needed and that they know better.
It's pretty straight forward: Something covering your mouth will limit the distance the stuff coming out of your mouth travels.
Do you really need some kind of extensive study to prove that?
Would you like someone to look into whether a raincoat can help keep you dry while we're at it?
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:37 am to jatebe
I’m all for wearing masks, I mean I have no choice if we shop for groceries etc. Having said that, does that include being outside on campus for a jog?
I’m tired of wearing one to buy a fifth of bourbon. I’m not a scientist or in the medical field but I figure bourbon kills anything.
I’m tired of wearing one to buy a fifth of bourbon. I’m not a scientist or in the medical field but I figure bourbon kills anything.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:37 am to Dennis4LSU
My guess is your requirements are OSHA based, these requirements are not based on Laws.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 12:48 am to jatebe
We're going full retard...
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:01 am to jatebe
Latest data: 99.2% who test positive recover. Most of those are a asymptomatic.
99.2% Recover Completely!
And no athlete, college or professional, has died from coronavirus. Zero.
Facts.
What are we doing? We have believed a lie.
99.2% Recover Completely!
And no athlete, college or professional, has died from coronavirus. Zero.
Facts.
What are we doing? We have believed a lie.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:04 am to WilliamTaylor21
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And this is why there will be no college football.
A very simple request like wearing a mask is met with morons claiming it isn't needed and that they know better.
It's pretty straight forward: Something covering your mouth will limit the distance the stuff coming out of your mouth travels.
Do you really need some kind of extensive study to prove that?
Would you like someone to look into whether a raincoat can help keep you dry while we're at it?
First, it's the law where I live to wear a mask. So I do, as does 99.9% of the people I've come across.
It did not matter and it did not have an effect.
Blaming masks is just a scapegoat. What matters is social distancing.
Here's a study published a little over a month ago.
On respiratory droplets and face masks
Highlights:
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1. Without wearing a mask, droplets travel to about 70 cm.
2. Wearing a mask, the bulk of droplets will travel about half the distance.
3. However, in both cases, there are still isolated droplets transmitted beyond 70 cm.
70cm = 2.2 feet. This is an open cough that is unblocked. That is what the mask blocks.
When was the last time someone open coughed in your face from less than 3 feet away? Do you not cough into your elbow? That blocks pretty much all of it.
Here is what the recommend.
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According to the results of this study, we make the following recommendations:
1. Although masks will reduce droplet transmission, we should not ignore that several droplets will be transmitted away from the mask. The use of a mask will not provide complete prevention from airborne droplet transmission. The above is particularly important for both indoor and outdoor environments. As Dbouk and Drikakis3 showed, respiratory droplets can be transmitted to several meters away from the subject due to wind conditions. Therefore, social distancing remains essential when facing an evolving pandemic.
Social distancing is what works and telling people masks prevent the spread leaves them with false information and a false sense of security.
Because this is what it actually takes if you are not social distancing:
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The above recommendation implies that we can protect healthcare workers only if we equip them with a complete PPE, e.g., a helmet with a built-in air filter, a face shield together with a disposable suit over the whole ensemble, and a double set of gloves.
And again, this is based on open coughs which is the most extreme measure. Not the guy standing in the grocery store breathing.
Every study done before this pandemic came to similiar findings. Only they also found that wearing masks increased your chances of spreading in cases due to a false sense of security, face touching etc. Also caused lung infection risk and when not worn properly could increase the chance of spread. They only recommended them to people who might have people coughing in their face, like healthcare workers. They do a good job at blocking the large particles that don't travel very far, but still don't provide complete protection.
Do what makes you feel better. It's the law here, so no choice for me. But blaming the spread on people not wearing masks is bullshite.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:07 am to 3down10
You are full of BS 3down10!
Latest data: 99.2% who test positive recover. Most of those are a asymptomatic.
99.2% Recover Completely!
And no athlete, college or professional, has died from coronavirus. Zero.
Facts.
What are we doing? We have believed a lie.
Latest data: 99.2% who test positive recover. Most of those are a asymptomatic.
99.2% Recover Completely!
And no athlete, college or professional, has died from coronavirus. Zero.
Facts.
What are we doing? We have believed a lie.
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 1:08 am
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:11 am to MysticTiger4
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You are full of BS 3down10!
Latest data: 99.2% who test positive recover. Most of those are a asymptomatic.
99.2% Recover Completely!
And no athlete, college or professional, has died from coronavirus. Zero.
Facts.
What are we doing? We have believed a lie.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:53 am to Ross
Ok. So do you think that people have the right to spread second hand smoke? And, do you think people have the right to breath this virus on others?
Secondary smoke is not voluntary is is less deadly than potentially spreading this contagion by not wearing a mask.
Secondary smoke is not voluntary is is less deadly than potentially spreading this contagion by not wearing a mask.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 2:03 am to AU66
So if a chain smoker sat next to you on a flight from Atlanta to Honolulu, you’d have no problem with that.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 3:52 am to 3down10
quote:Saying "it is a scapegoat" is exactly what I mean though.
Blaming masks is just a scapegoat. What matters is social distancing.
There is no need to downplay the fact that wearing a mask is better than not wearing a mask.
Even if it is only a tiny bit better (though, what you posted seems to show a pretty clear difference) - it is still better than not doing it.
quote:No one is coughing in my face, but when you cough the droplets don't just vanish. They stay in the air (which is then walked through, having the same impact as someone coughing in your face) until they cover a surface. People then touch that surface and continue to spread it.
70cm = 2.2 feet. This is an open cough that is unblocked. That is what the mask blocks. When was the last time someone open coughed in your face from less than 3 feet away?When was the last time someone open coughed in your face from less than 3 feet away?
Is a mask going to stop every droplet? No, of course not. But it is cutting down a lot of what comes out and the surface area that it covers (while also protecting you from what other people hack out).
From the study you posted:
Posted on 8/14/20 at 5:06 am to jatebe
Somebody needs to be following Saban like TMZ. Seems in the pics of his rule violations.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 8:41 am to Ross
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Should people be allowed to smoke anywhere they want?
This analogy is kind of weak
Smoking is voluntary, breathing is not.
I think you just made the case against your post.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 8:54 am to RelentlessTide
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Should people be allowed to smoke anywhere they want?
Sure, as long as you don't exhale.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 9:29 am to jatebe
I have written those in power to inform them I will be withholding my money until sanity returns.
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